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Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Mr. Daly for clarifying the matter. I note that the name of the secretary has been redacted from the minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: Does Mr. Daly think that the secretary would agree with what he has said today?

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: Does Mr. Daly think the secretary would give evidence to say there were no other discussions other than what is recorded in the minutes at those board meetings?

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: That was not my question. Does Mr. Daly think she would agree with what he has said?

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: Mr. Daly said in his opening statement on 24 November 2016 that nowadays board decisions and the rationale for them are recorded in much greater detail than was the case three years ago. Can Mr. Daly explain his comment? It does not tally with what he has said in respect of keeping a notes on a temporary basis.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: I am sorry to cut across Mr. Daly. I think that is helpful.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: To my mind, regardless of what the normal process was, there were extenuating circumstances in relation to this matter. I note that Mr. Daly quoted the ICSA guidelines but they are only guidelines. There was a huge amount at stake in respect of the sale of Project Eagle. I would have thought that with those extenuating circumstances, as exceptional circumstances, the rationale should have...

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: Does Mr. Daly understand the difficulty the Committee of Public Accounts has in accepting NAMA's valuation when there is no documentary evidence to back it up?

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: Mr. Daly, with respect, using the words "official record" twice or more in your opening statement for the minutes is interesting.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: It raised the question in my mind when I read it that, although it is not explicit but implicit, there may be an unofficial record.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: By prefacing the word "record" with the word "official" seems strange.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: What law has Mr. Daly based that on, as a matter of interest?

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: All right.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: The fact that NAMA has changed its procedure and is now recording the rationale is of benefit.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: The reason this is important is that we need to eradicate any hint of untoward happenings. If NAMA were to show the rationale, it would demonstrate that. That is really what this is about because it begs a question that is left unanswered. That is why I spoke earlier about extenuating circumstances when there is so much money at stake. Mr. Daly stated NAMA would address the matter in...

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: No.

Public Accounts Committee: Policy on the Retention of Contemporaneous Notes in the Preparation of Board Minutes: National Asset Management Agency (14 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: I apologise for interrupting. I know it happens at board meetings that it is said a conversation will not be recorded in the minutes. From that perspective, it would be in NAMA's interests to ring-fence that.

Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Welfare (13 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: 547. To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine to outline the current regulations to safeguard animal welfare with regard to live animal circuses; and his plans to ban animal circuses. [39625/16]

Planning and Development (Housing) and Residential Tenancies Bill 2016 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (7 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin. This old Irish adage means that there is no home like one's own home. It is particularly pertinent at this time of the year. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing more emotionally affecting in this job than a constituent who makes contact with one desperately seeking help to find a home or put a roof over his or her head and...

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Public Sector Staff Retirements (6 Dec 2016)

Josepha Madigan: 87. To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality her plans regarding raising and or abolishing the mandatory retirement age; and if there are plans underway to progress the Employment Equality (Abolition of Mandatory Retirement Age) Bill 2014. [38536/16]

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