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Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: On a point of order, the procedure is that I will move the amendment, speak to it and it will then need to be seconded. Is that correct?

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I understand that but what is the position with regard to the amendments being grouped?

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I move amendment No. 1: In page 5, between lines 16 and 17, to insert the following:“(3) The Minister shall, not later than 2 years after the date on which the Act is enacted, and again not later than 5 years after that date, carry out a review of the operation of this Act assessing, in particular, its consistency with international best practice in the field of gender recognition and...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I thank the Minister for his straight response, which he has always given to Members as well as those outside this House. I am not disagreeing with him that this legislation is ground-breaking. I apologise that when I began my remarks this afternoon, I did not welcome again the fact that he has put forward this amendment. When he said on Committee Stage that he would accept my amendment in...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I still believe mine could be better than, or at least equivalent to, the Minister's. It is important to have guidelines and benchmarks. I accept what Senator Mooney said - namely, that that is not standard practice. That does not mean I would not argue for it. Senator Norris said in response to Senator Bacik that if we start naming certain guidelines or benchmarks we might not be...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: There is a debate and there are different theories and understandings about international best practice, but that does not mean that we should disregard it. I am a little concerned that there is not agreement about that. There are trends and gatherings that identify that practice, such as the Yogyakarta principles, which are not the same kind of hard and binding law as others. I would...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: Excuse me for asking, but does the Minister respond to what I have just said? Do I have to decide before I hear anything more from the Minister?

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: He has spoken.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: The Minister might respond, even just to my last comment.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: We should not take it-----

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: Yes. I thank the Minister.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: No, it is not.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I second the amendment. Whatever about any of us being present in two years' time, let us hope Senator van Turnhout is in one of the Houses to speak on behalf of young transgender people. The amendment is an innovation coming back to the Government based on the same principles as the Senator's earlier amendments and very much grounded in research, practical experience and the circumstances...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I move amendment No. 4: In page 6, between lines 2 and 3, to insert the following:“ “general medical practitioner” means a medical practitioner who is registered in the Specialist Division of the register of medical practitioners under the medical speciality of “General Practice” or in the General Division of the register of medical practitioners;”.I...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: Why would I not do this?

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I thank the Minister of State for his response. I respect where he is coming from, the concerns he has and the need for consultation. It seems the Minister of State does not believe that this is possible, and not only now. It has not happened to date and will not happen soon, even following the Dáil effort. I would have preferred if the Minister of State had at least agreed to talk...

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: Yes.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I move amendment No. 21: In page 11, to delete lines 21 to 24.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: It is good to follow the statesman, Senator Paschal Mooney.

Seanad: Gender Recognition Bill 2014: Report and Final Stages (17 Feb 2015)

Katherine Zappone: I acknowledge and celebrate the extraordinary strength, courage and character of the transgender community, particularly Dr. Lydia Foy and Mr. Michael Farrell, as well as all of the other people who have gathered with us over this time, as Senator Mooney stated so eloquently. I am sure the Minister of State accepts it is right and good that I acknowledge them first. We are all very pleased...

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