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Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: I welcome the Minister for Justice, Deputy Fitzgerald. Before Committee Stage commences, I would like to deal with a procedural matter concerning Bills to amend the Constitution. The substance of the debate on Committee Stage concerns the wording of the proposed constitutional amendment, which is contained in the Schedule to the Bill. The sections of the Bill are merely technical,...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Amendments Nos. 5 and 6 in the name of Senator Rónán Mullen have been ruled out of order.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator, you made a point of order and I allowed you a lot of latitude in making your point. I have signed the letters in good faith and have made my decision that the matters raised were outside the scope of the Bill and I will stand by that ruling. I have given you three or four minutes to make your point, which normally would not be allowed, because you feel strongly about it. The point...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Certainly, on a point of procedure that can be done and I will reflect on it and may come to the same decision. What has been done at this stage is done and if the Senator re-enters them I will have to look at it again. I am not going to pre-empt what might happen on Report Stage.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: I appreciate that the Senator feels strongly. We are now on amendment No. 7 in the name of Senator Mullen. Amendments Nos. 1, 2 and 7 form a composite proposal and may be discussed together by agreement. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: The tellers for the "Tá" side have declined to sign the tellers' sheet so I, as Leas-Chathaoirleach, must declare that the question is lost. In the circumstances, I am obliged to put the question on amendment No. 2.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: If amendment No. 3 is agreed, amendment No. 4 cannot be moved. Amendment No. 4 is a physical alternative. Amendments Nos. 3 and 4 are related and may be discussed together by agreement. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: That is a matter for the Chair, not a point of order.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: I call Senator Healy Eames.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator Healy Eames indicated that she must leave.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: That was in the belief that no one else was offering and Senator Healy Eames was leaving.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: That is not a point of order.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Hold on one second. This matter has already been ruled on and it was wrong of Senator Moran to raise it. Is the amendment being pressed?

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Does the Minister wish to add anything further?

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: The Minister has the right to reply and says that she has nothing further to add. The Senator cannot compel her to respond.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Is amendment No. 4 being moved?

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: No. Each amendment must be moved individually. Even though it has been discussed, the Senator-----

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: That is what the House agreed. The content has been debated. Senator Mullen is entitled to move or not move the amendment, and he is not moving it.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: It is standard procedure.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Denis O'Donovan: Do not get involved in this debate. I am in Senator Mullen's favour.