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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Would An Bord Pleanála have done that if this had not all ended up being a big media story? Where was its review? It is what you do when nobody is looking that is the big deal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Has the OPR indicated to An Bord Pleanála what areas it is reviewing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Walsh has made it clear that for strategic infrastructure development and for strategic housing development there is a requirement for a three-member board. In Mr. Walsh's time as the chairman of An Bord Pleanála have there been any instances where the number of people making those decisions has been fewer than three?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Was that the only one, to the best of Mr. Walsh's knowledge?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Would Mr. Walsh have been involved in a two-member board himself or anything like that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I thank Mr. Walsh.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I wish to raise a couple of points in regard to the State Claims Agency. Am I correct in saying it receives the money back?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I got a response to a parliamentary question that indicated that the State Claims Agency received 90 claims in regard to Covid-19. They relate to service unit staff etc. It states in the reply that the State Claims Agency does not disclose its contingent liability figures for reasons of litigation sensitivity for a particular series or cohort of similar claims. However, it does presumably...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Is the contingent liability in the individual Department or in the State Claims Agency? Where does it reside? Is there a contingent liability stated?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Right. That is okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: That is in advance of cases being decided.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I want to ask a question about the Child and Family Agency, Tusla. Is it structured as a charity?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: But it would not be for the entire organisation.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: The HSE is structured as a charity as well. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It would be quite useful to understand why that would be the case.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It would be quite useful to understand if Mr. McCarthy could give us a note.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: That is great. I thank Mr. McCarthy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I am unhappy about this. I specifically asked a question on whether there were other triggers. This goes to whether there can be counterclaims, at what point one would trigger a counterclaim and whether it is just at the end of the contract. They went through in some detail that they had to wait until all of it was completed before they could decide whether there was a counterclaim. We...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: When the Comptroller and Auditor General contacted them, did they say what they were? I would have pursued that line and that is what I had intended to try to pursue. In contracts, there are often a range of different things and it is not just all the eggs in one basket at the end.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Catherine Murphy: What would be an example of that?

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