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Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Order of Business is No. 1, Qualifications and Quality Assurance (Education and Training) (Amendment) Bill 2018 - Committee Stage, resumed, to be taken at 12.45 p.m.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: That is the first mistake the Senator made.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I thought Senator Norris was a Christian.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator never misses an opportunity to refer to this.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: It is a pity the Senator's party did a U-turn. It is a pity it did not have the courage to go through with it.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: How are Senator Mark Daly and Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív doing?

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sick of listening to Senator Leyden.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator is wrong.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Wrong.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I dtús báire, cuirim fíorfháilte go dtí an Teach roimh an Uasal John O'Sullivan agus roimh na banaltraí. In welcoming the nurses - a number of Senators mentioned this issue - we must be careful in the context of the rhetoric we use. Senator Marshall spoke about the use of language. It is important to recognise a number of points. First, there is a need for...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The inference of his argument is that there should be a free-for-all.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator repeatedly fails to recognise that we have employed 3,800 more nurses and that pay restoration is continuing for public servants across the board. We are paying €1.5 billion per month in the form of public sector pay. That is €17 billion per year. If one was to accept Senator Gavan's argument and that of his party, we would be spending in excess of that. We...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: What Senator Gavan fails-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I will not. With respect, what the Senator, as a trade unionist, will have to do is look at what the Public Sector Pay Commission had to say in respect of the €20 million relating to the cost of recognition of qualifications and allowances-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: It is funny, in the context of the arguments being put forward-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Are those who have been commenting on public sector pay really saying that there should be a free-for-all?Senator Grace O'Sullivan's party was in government and understands what collective bargaining is. Does Senator Gavan want us to go back and have individual unions negotiating? Does he want to go back to the days of benchmarking and what happened with that?

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I said the-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I referred to the import and the inference of the argumentation, if Senator Gavan wants to listen to it. We know what the voodoo economics of Sinn Féin stand for.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: It was the truth. Sinn Féin has not changed its tune.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (7 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Is Senator Gavan saying to the people of Ireland that we should not build the national children's hospital?

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