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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Not at national level.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: At national level we are pushing massively higher.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: In relation to the pillar 1 basic payment scheme, unfortunately this has been our experience for a number of CAPs. It is something we fight against. Where we get the chance to influence it and bring funding to the table is at national level. I must recognise the support I have received from the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Deputy Michael McGrath, on putting the money on the...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Pillar 1.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Pillar 1.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Pillar 1.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: No, pillar 1 is static. Pillar 2 is up significantly.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I have not said that at all. I have very clearly outlined with regard to pillar 1 that there has been downward pressure across Europe and we fought hard against it to keep it as high as we could. I have also outlined with regard to pillar 2 that where we have control we are stepping up to the mark and putting money on the table for farmers. Deputy Carthy will get nothing but reality from...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: There-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: We fully understand it Deputy. Deputy Carthy is trying to twist things in a way that is totally unrepresentative and inaccurate.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: To be clear, pillar 1 is static. We fought hard against this.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Pillar 1 is static. When something is static, then, if there is inflation, that will erode it. Pillar 2 is up 20% at European level. We put it up 50% at national level.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Pillar 1 is static. If there is any inflation, then that erodes it. Regarding pillar 2, we have put it up by 50% at national level-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Unless the Deputy has a magic ball I do not have that allows him to know what is going to happen in the next five or six years in the context of inflation, and he will have many careers post his political one if he can project in this way, all we know is that this has been a year that has seen challenging inflation levels. What I can do, and what I have done as the Minister, is to deliver an...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I certainly hope this is not eroded over the course of the next five years.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: We are opening this up. The sheep welfare scheme for next year will be for €12 per ewe and it will be for all comers that apply. When profiling the CAP for the next five years, we make the best estimate we can concerning how it will work. This scheme will run based on €12 per ewe. Equally, the Deputy will know as well as I do the representations from sheep farmers seeking to...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: It is 8,000 ha.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I would be very happy if 8,000 ha were to be planted next year because we have not been meeting these targets. This is why we have significantly step-changed in this regard. We have discussed the licensing challenge, which was no help at all and which we have worked hard to resolve. We are now combining what will be an efficient licensing system with a strong and attractive new forestry...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: If we can deliver 2,500 more hectares next year, and bring the total up to 8,000 ha, then I would be very happy with that outcome next year. We are getting there and we are building this activity, and this would be a good step-change. We can then look at progressing from there.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Nov 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: We want to ensure they go to the farmer.

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