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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: That concludes our business. It has been a long session. I thank everybody for attending the meeting. I thank especially the petitioner, Mr. John O'Sullivan, for travelling from Cork to attend here today. It is very much appreciated. I also thank Mr. John Douglas from Mandate, now president of the ICTU, Ms Rhona Murphy and Mr. Loughlin Deegan, who has already left, from IBEC, Ms Esther...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I will conclude. Several parliamentarians queried this issue so maybe the Department would consider it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Senator O'Keeffe had to leave for a vote, so I will allow Senator O'Keeffe and Deputy Mathews to ask questions only. I thank the witnesses for their patience. The Joint Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions is innovative and allows a petitioner or citizen to bring their concerns to the Oireachtas. If we as parliamentarians see a wider policy area, we want to bring all the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Thank you Deputy. I call Mr. John Douglas to be followed by Ms Esther Lynch.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Senator Susan O'Keeffe had to leave for a vote in the Seanad.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Most of those elected to the Dáil are intemperate from time to time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I must cut the Deputy short and call Deputy Charles Flanagan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I cut Ms Murphy short by two minutes. Did she have anything further to add?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Deputy Mathews has gone off topic.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I am sorry to interrupt the Deputy, but we are now three hours into the session and the witnesses have been present for three hours and 20 minutes. We must move on with questions. They have been disrupted a number of times.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Student grants.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Unfortunately, another vote has come up. Does Ms Murphy wish to make a quick point? We have two minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Deputies, Senators and the representatives here will all have their different perspectives and nuances on the issues but it is particularly valuable for Department officials because it will help them in terms of the preparation of legislation. The dynamic we have today means that people will have different views and leave this room with different views but the hope is that Department...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I thank Mr. O'Sullivan. The Department wishes to respond. Before that I wish to advise that there will be another vote in approximately 20 minutes. We will try to get through matters as efficiently as we can but I suspect we might have to adjourn again. This time it will be for ten minutes to allow for a vote if that arises.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Yes.

European Union Agency for Law Enforcement Co-operation and Training (Europol): Motion (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: This is not agreed. This came up in-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I thank the witnesses for their contributions. I will open the meeting up to questions from members.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Senators will need to leave now. There will probably be a vote in the Dáil as well. I propose that we suspend for 15 minutes, although it may need to be 20 minutes. I apologise to the witnesses in advance. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I now invite Mr. Niall McCutcheon, assistant secretary, to make his opening statement on behalf of the Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Employment Appeals Tribunal: Public Petition No. P00027/12 (18 Jul 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I now invite Ms Rhona Murphy and Mr. Loughlin Deegan to make their opening statement on behalf of IBEC.

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