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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay. They are very efficient beef producers. We would find it hard to compete with them. There is no doubt about that. They are paying high tariffs on their products at the moment. If access were granted as a result of a deal, it would be phased in over a period of six or seven years. I share the concern and that is why we are doing everything...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: Prime Minister Theresa May's letter to European Commission President Juncker said she is committed to the backstop.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: The backstop option is clearly defined in her letter. She states that there is an explicit commitment to agreeing in the withdrawal agreement an operational legal text for at least the so-called backstop option set out in the joint report. She agrees to that. However, she may have a better solution to that. That is black and white.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: Yes, it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: No, she does not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: I am somewhat confused as to the Deputy's rationale. It begs that question of whether he is committed to the backstop agreement. It is clearly stated what the backstop agreement is in the phase one agreement. The text of this agreement states that the backstop requires the UK to maintain full alignment with those rules of the Internal Market and the customs union which now, or in the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: No, if-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: The backstop is the backstop. A better option for us would be a whole-of-UK-EU agreement, but as a minimum, and the Government will not resile from this, we will not countenance a hard border. I am sure this is something with which Deputy McConalogue would agree.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: That is good to know anyway because I thought for moment from his line of questioning-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: I appreciate that if that is the case. What Prime Minister May is saying is very clear. She is saying she is committed to agreeing in the operational legal text of the withdrawal agreement for at least the so-called backstop option set out in the joint report. That joint report clarifies what that backstop is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: Prime Minister May has written and clarified her intentions and what the backstop agreement does is clarify in-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: When one negotiates with sovereign states and when the prime minister of a sovereign state in those negotiations writes and recommits herself to the agreement she signed as the leader of a sovereign government in December, that is a belt and braces approach.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: The rationale for that relates to the Prime Minister coming up with a better solution in the interim, but the safeguard here is that the backstop is the point beyond which we will not countenance her-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: I find it quite extraordinary that a Government that has been motivated primarily, leaving aside all the economic arguments, by ensuring that we do not have a hard border on the island of Ireland is being attacked by Fianna Fáil for achieving something like that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: I find it quite extraordinary.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: We have given substantial additional resources to Bord Bia. One of the talks we asked it to conduct was a market prioritisation whereby it would identify where there were opportunities for us to improve our market penetration, be it in beef, dairy, seafood, pork or sheepmeat. That is informing the actions being undertaken by us in the Department in the context of trade missions, etc. There...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: What would happen is that it would be phased in over that period so I understand that it would be introduced incrementally.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: It is a very current and hot topic. There are a lot of players and a lot of commodity issues in play. I do not want to talk timelines about which I cannot be definitive.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: I understand that there is a consequence of the election in terms of the Brazilian ministerial team participating in those negotiations in detail. I do not want definitively to call the time involved but I think we are quite close to that cusp that it would have an implication.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Post-EU Council Meeting of Agriculture and Fisheries: Discussion (29 Mar 2018)

Michael Creed: Yes.

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