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Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I agree with the Senator. I would have excluded the diversified funds or whatever they call them - the derivatives. I would have kept them out altogether.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: The Minister of State is inclined to be helpful, albeit only up to a limited point. She has stated we are moving away from wards of court but while that may be true, this Bill addresses wards of court. This is what it is about and its central plank pertains to wards of court.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Yes, but it still deals with it and makes provision for it as it stands. As for the period of three years or whatever it is, what about a person who is severely disabled mentally and has no relations? What happens to him or her?

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Wait a minute. The Minister of State has stated the funds will be given back to the people.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: She then went on to say they should be allowed to make mistakes like everybody else. Is it responsible on the part of society to hand somebody who is brain-damaged a huge bunch of money and tell him or her to go off and make mistakes? That is Reaganomics; it really is western capitalism at its worst to let these people have their pensions and then to allow them rot in the gutter. I do not...

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Creating the financial circumstances to put them in the gutter-----

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: ----- if one makes them make their mistakes.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: The Minister of State says it is the responsibility of the visitor to ensure the ward of court is properly looked after. How can the visitor do this if he or she does not have the money to do so? I cited the case of somebody whose principal asset had been reduced in value from €510,000 to €150,000.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: No. I was only allowing the Minister of State to interrupt me because I am very courteous. There has to be some engagement on financial matters on the part of the visitor. It is very difficult for people with limited mental capacity. There are lots of people of complete sound mind who are useless in dealing with stocks and shares. What hope does somebody with reduced capacity have? I...

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I await the Minister of State's reply.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Why?

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: The Minister of State needs to pee.

Seanad: Order of Business (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Like people all over the country I watched the RTE programme last night about corruption and was horrified. Corruption is a cancer in this country and it needs to be utterly and absolutely condemned. Corruption has real effects on people's lives. We see it in the planning decisions, in the flooding, in inappropriate developments and so on that have ruined people's lives. The most...

Seanad: Order of Business (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I was shaken for the whole day. I was furious about it.

Seanad: Order of Business (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: In a long career in public life, I have never been accused of this kind of thing and have never behaved in that way. How dare RTE suggest it and not even apologise.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2015: Second Stage (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2015: Second Stage (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2015: Second Stage (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Rebuilding costs more than the market value.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2015: Second Stage (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I would like to share time with my colleague, Senator Quinn.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2015: Second Stage (8 Dec 2015)

David Norris: We will ignore that; it is Christmas. I do not welcome the Bill at all.

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