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Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: Today's Order of Business is No. 2, referral motion regarding the Capital Acquisitions Tax Consolidation Bill 2002 to the Standing Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills, to be taken without debate; No. 3, Protection of the Environment Bill 2003 – Order for Second Stage and Second Stage, with the contributions of spokespersons not to exceed 15 minutes and those of all other Senators not to...

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: That was ten years ago.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: The Senator is full of himself.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: He has not asked a question yet.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: I will answer that all right.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: No, there will be no detail.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: We got it this morning.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: I hope it will be there for some time to come.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: Senator Brian Hayes, in agreeing to the Order of Business, referred to gangland murders and the need for the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform to come to the House to state if there were any extra legislative, monetary or other measures in place to deal with the problem. He recalled the period from 1995-96 when the Criminal Assets Bureau was established and other measures led to a...

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: We have to see if we will get the resources to do so before we start making public statements about it. I hope it will be cleared in about ten days. I agree with Senator O'Toole about economists. Did anyone ever see George Lee laughing or smiling? I never did. I am sure he is a very nice man, personally speaking, but he looks like Mr. Gloom every time he appears on television.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: I will talk about economists in general instead. They are all Mr. and Mrs. Glooms but mainly Mr. Glooms. They get away with the most outrageous statements like, "We will be so many billion euro out this year" in a particular sphere and then have the temerity to revisit their projections some months later with completely different ones. They still maintain a bright face about it.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: That is my opinion about economists. I agree with Senator O'Toole that we should have a debate on the State's finances. Moving to a monthly accountancy approval rating in the Department of Finance is a good idea because it means everyone knows each month – without the prophets of doom – where we are within our financial parameters. I will ask for a financial debate in the House. The...

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: The Senator asked for a debate on crime, which I hope to arrange. Senator Mansergh summed up economists and politicians in his own way. Senator Finucane raised the matter to which he referred in the House yesterday and on which there are divergent views. Senator Ryan answered across the benches, making a point about one not being supposed to shoot at people. There is no policy of shooting at...

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: Would he? Fair enough.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: Senator Minihan felt there should be a debate on crime and full fiscal projections made public for the year ahead on a monthly basis. It is timely that we should have a financial debate, because it will be useful when taking the Bill in the House, which might not be for some time. Senator O'Meara asked if social partnership would embrace the ideas of asylum seekers. I understood that the...

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: It is called the Labour Party and so is Senator Ryan's party.

Seanad: Order of Business. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: I am under orders to ignore interruptions so that will be my last one today. Order of Business agreed to.

Seanad: Capital Acquisitions Tax Consolidation Bill 2002: Referral to Standing Joint Committee. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: I move: That, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders– (a) the Capital Acquisitions Tax Consolidation Bill 2002 be referred to the Standing Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills; (b) the first meeting of the Committee to consider the Bill be held on Wednesday, 5th February, 2003; and

Seanad: Protection of the Environment Bill 2003: Order for Second Stage. (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: I move: "That Second Stage be taken now." Question put and agreed to.

Seanad: Protection of the Environment Bill 2003: Second Stage (Resumed). (5 Feb 2003)

Mary O'Rourke: It will resume as soon as possible. Debate adjourned.

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