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- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I am very specific.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I am very specific because I am talking about a definition. I could not be more specific. I am talking about the language. I have established that "chemical restraint" occurs in other sections of the Bill. It would be very helpful if the Minister of State or her advisers could indicate where "chemical restraint" occurs in the Bill. I know that is a bit of an “ask”, as they...
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: The Minister of State already said "in these circumstances".
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: Is it possible to give the reference? I want to tease this out.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: The Minister of State does not have it at the moment.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: Yes.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: We need to know where "chemical restraint" occurs in the Bill. If it occurs in the Bill, it needs a definition that is broader than just for the purpose of a particular section.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: Is that the only other place it occurs?
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: It is in section 53(5)(c) but it is not actually “chemical restraint”.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: Yes. My point was that if the phrase “chemical restraint” occurred in the legislation, as I was initially told, it would have needed a definition. It does not occur except in a section where it more or less defines itself.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I made this point before in that there is a huge number of amendments but when we come to an actual amendment we are told it was already discussed so we cannot discuss it again.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I was misinformed by the Cathaoirleach because he said I could come in again.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: Exactly but I cannot come in when the amendment is before us. That is the point I was making and it is a very good and valid point.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: They were not necessarily.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: No.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I know. I am just being awkward.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I do not agree with all this. In this kind of circumstance where there are 21 or 22 pages of amendments and they are all grouped together as a big group and we can discuss them only as this kind of huge, amorphous bulk, we do not have the opportunity to consider them when we come to them in the actual Bill, where they are relevant. We are told they were already discussed with the other...
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: I am not agreeing but that does not mean they are not grouped.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: The Minister of State can go on. I do not care.
- Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)
David Norris: Some of these amendments are generated by the text of the Bill and are necessary but others should have been picked up at an earlier stage. There is no excuse for that.