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Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I welcome all present to the committee. Apologies have been received from Senators Lombard and Warfield. The first item on the agenda is the minutes of our private and public meetings on 18 and 19 October 2023. Are the minutes agreed? Agreed. I remind members of the constitutional requirement that they must be physically present within the confines of the place in which Parliament has...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: The next item on the order of business is our engagement with representatives of the Mid-West Hospital Campaign group to discuss public petition No. P00036/22, entitled Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments. Before we start, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practice of the Houses as regards reference witnesses may make to other...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I thank Ms Moran. I call Ms McMahon to make her opening statement.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I thank Ms McMahon. I invite Ms Tonge to make her opening statement.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I thank Ms Delaney. I now invite members to ask any questions they might have. I see Deputy Higgins's hand is raised.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Does Deputy Higgins have any more questions?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Regarding claims that the Government has covered up, the Deputy should be careful with the language being used. That is all we are asking. If the Government makes mistakes, that is fine. Let it admit it but the Deputy should not accuse it when it does not-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Does Ms Moran wish to respond?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: The witnesses are in the mid-west. I ask Deputy McNamara to talk about it, or we can finish up.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: When did you meet Mr. Gloster? Did he give any indication of when he would come back to you all?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Work away.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Would any other witnesses like to contribute? Is Deputy McNamara finished?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I thank Deputy McNamara. On my own behalf, I express my condolences to Marie regarding her husband-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I call Deputy Wynne.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: There is a list of people the campaign has asked us to bring in in front of the committee. I will propose later that we will try to bring those people in and we can quiz them.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I will say the list is long and it would be difficult to try to get them all here in a short time. It is asking for nine or ten groups to come in. That would be nearly four meetings and that would be splitting a meeting into two. I have it down to talk to the petitioners and see if we can break it down to, perhaps, the three most important people they would feel the committee could invite...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I imagine none of the Ministers know who is coming into the committees.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Yes, but this meeting was for the petitioners to come in and we would talk to them-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: -----and take away whatever we feel we can to progress the petition afterwards. While we are talking about it, the witnesses have asked for the Minister for Health, the author of the HIQA report, the CEO of the UL Hospitals Group, the former clinical director of the UL Hospitals Group, the HSE representative, representatives from the Sláintecare implementation committee, union...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I call Senator Gavan.

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