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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: They are employed by Tusla.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: I am asking whether there is any region which is over-subscribed, with people waiting on a panel to take up a position, given there are openings everywhere.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: My next question concerns the IT system. Is the Tusla IT system integrated with the Garda system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Are there plans to do that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Is there still a paper process?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: No, I-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: I mentioned to HIQA that I welcomed the fact the ICT systems were put in place, so credit where it is due.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Can Tusla furnish us with a date for when the Garda PULSE system will integrate with the Tusla system, given the history of what has happened and the people we have had at this committee before? It is imperative that we get some sort of timeline on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Does Mr. Smyth have a specific timeline for when those systems will integrate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: There is no estimated timeline.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: There is no timeline yet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: I am very conscious of the timeline for getting those systems integrated, given what has happened.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: That was the problem. I have two more questions. First, with regard to the agency staff on Tusla's books, is there a conversion clause to convert some of them into permanent employees of Tusla?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Has it been examined that somebody who is working there for 12 months through an agency could convert to become a permanent employee? Obviously, they would have a great knowledge of the organisation. Is there a roadmap for that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: What is the problem with the recruitment licence?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Once they are there for six or 12 months, they would then apply for the job. However, I want to throw out the idea that something more be put in place. What happens in the private sector? When a contractor goes into a private sector organisation for six months or 12 months, there is a conversion clause in the contract to say that if the person is hired permanently, a fee will be paid to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Can that be done within the current legislation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Therefore, it is the statutory process that is blocking Tusla from doing that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: Ms Walsh said Tusla will explore this. Will it push to explore as much as possible what it can do within the process to make this as efficient as possible?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Recruitment and Retention of Social Workers: Tusla (13 Feb 2019)

Tom Neville: I have one other question. The witnesses spoke about stress and burnout among employees. Although I want to get to the nub of the difficulties, I want to put on record that social work is very rewarding and we would praise social workers for the work they do, and I say this having interacted a lot with social workers. Nonetheless, given staff have been missing work days, is there any...

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