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Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: There were set criteria to get onto the scheme. This is why the research element was crucially important. It was not just about the money but about doing really detailed analysis and research. We had the first report on that before Christmas and a stakeholder forum about it. We will see more reports coming out. I brought that report to my Cabinet colleagues to let them know how...

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: It was published at the time, yes.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: It is under active consideration. As the Chair said, we see the benefit of the sports capital and equipment programme for communities. I absolutely understand the view that something similar in the arts and culture sector could deliver similar dividends. It is under active consideration. It needs detailed consideration because there is the capacity in the sports sector to deliver and roll...

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: RTÉ is co-operating with the Department of Social Protection scope investigation into potential PRSI classification liabilities related to the contractual and employment arrangements of approximately 700 individuals. What is very important is that it is addressed in as timely a manner as possible. I have no role in this regard. It remains a matter for the DG and the Department of...

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: The figure has not been determined yet and I do not I think it would be appropriate or helpful for me to start speculating on it. It is not determined yet.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: The ultimate cost is not determined yet.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: No, it is not determined yet.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: No, I have not. That is why I think-----

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: I do not want speculation around costs as I do not think that is helpful in this situation. There is no concrete-----

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: They cannot give a figure because the Department of Social Protection has not finished examining all of the cases yet.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: There is an active Department of Social Protection investigation. As the Minister with responsibility for media, and having regard to RTÉ's statutory independence, I do not believe it is appropriate for me to start suggesting or interfering in how RTÉ should deal with staffing and contractual matters. That is the case.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: As I have said already, we do not have that figure because it is ongoing. It is an active investigation.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: We do not have that.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: No, we do not have that yet.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: I am not going to seek something until it is concluded and they have the exact figure.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: Yes, there are two issues. There is the Department of Social Protection issue in regard to that liability and then there is the compensation issue. There are two issues. I agree with the Deputy on that.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: Not while it is ongoing. As Minister, I cannot get involved. These are the mechanics in regard to employees and employers, and there is no mechanism in my Department to determine labour law issues.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: For the individual employees, I am not their employer. It is up to RTÉ to determine that liability. Again, this is why I point to the future-looking piece and why I listened to the staff. It is about getting it right in future, examining those HR and contractor issues and making sure RTÉ then implements the recommendations that are made.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: No, it actually would not be appropriate for us to get involved in that. It is purely a matter between the Department of Social Protection and RTÉ.

Select Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (Revised)
(8 Feb 2024)

Catherine Martin: It is still ongoing, so no.

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