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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Let us say the figure is €80 million. I think the Department meets with them a few times per year. Would there then be a discussion around the portion of that fund that goes to prize money being kept within a certain amount?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: So they could spend €63 million or €64 million on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: In relation to private owners and the private sector, it provides 20%.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Many of the people who would be expected to contribute to that are some of the people who are benefiting most from this. I know one does not want to strangle the goose that laid the golden egg, but would they not be in a position to pony up a bit more?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are there discussions around that? If the State put in €40 million and the private sector put in €20 million, many people who are not tied to the industry would be surprised at that. They may have been of the opinion that all the funding came from within the sector and not from the taxpayer.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: But has the Department ever raised it with the board when it meets with it?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yet, the Department is providing it on behalf of the State.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am not arguing against public investment. I am probing this because there are legitimate questions coming from outside the sector and from some people in the sector.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: People used to say one time that it is because of the amount of limestone underneath County Kildare. I do not know whether that has anything to do with it. Ms Fanning might know more about it than I do. I do not know whether there is anything to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It was the reason always given that the horse industry was more based in Kildare than in the midlands. They used to say it was because of the different soil structure.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Ó Cathasaigh might be brief. I will bring him back in later.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: We will have a second round of questions. Deputy Verona Murphy has seven minutes, and we will see how we go.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I will revert to forestry. There was an underspend of €34 million on forestry in 2021 and that was attributed to the licensing process, the volume of appeals and so on. Has the implementation of the 2020 Act sped up the licensing process significantly? What is the processing time now?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: What period is the Department aiming for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: What about a road licence?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Six and eight months, respectively.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: What are the numbers in the system waiting?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: How many were there this time two years ago, the last time the Department was before the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: The figure is less than one third of what it was. What role does the Department have at senior level in the Gresham House deal? Did it get encouragement for that deal? Did it point Coillte in that direction?

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