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Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Why are the amendments submitted to us-----

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Why are the amendments submitted to us inappropriate?

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: That is amendment No. 174.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: May I point out, a Cathaoirleach, that there are 24 pages of these amendments. We have already been here for about ten minutes with the Minister of State explaining these sections. They are not all as closely related as people think. How can one possibly keep up-----

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: There are 24 pages of amendments all taken together. I have never come across this before.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: We had three examples last week.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Yes, but some of the amendments are grammatical amendments. It should have been utterly obvious whenever the thing was-----

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: This shows the difficulty in dealing with so many amendments in this way. I am trying to understand the legislation as it goes through the House and it is extremely difficult because we are referring to sections not included in the Bill, as it stands. There are further proposed hypothetical amendments. I am trying to understand the Bill in order that I can do a good job as a legislator. I...

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I could not remember it. Tell me what it is.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Yes.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I completely accept that and understand the good intentions of the Minister of State. However, there are so many matters involved and differences between them.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: It is not really. One could make an argument for separating out the amendment dealing with complaints about attorneys.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I am afraid I do not see any reason for applause. This is a bad evening’s work.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Yes, on a human level but what about the endurance of the House? It is not to be applauded on a legislative level. As Senators demonstrated by their comments, the Minister of State showed some signs of physical stress in reading out all this, and one’s heart goes out to her. We have had nearly an hour of the Minister of State. These amendments compose almost the heart of the entire...

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Yes, and they deal with a large swathe of the Bill. They could have been separated. For example, amendment No. 188 relates to complaints regarding attorneys. It seems there is a certain degree of separation in that issue and it deserves to be teased out separately. This is really pushing at the last minute to get legislation through. It is a very bad process as it minimises our capacity...

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: It is nearly 30 years.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: It is under the age of 18.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: Yes, but I was asking if the guardian ad litemwould come into play.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: It should contain all the facts.

Seanad: Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (9 Dec 2015)

David Norris: We did well.

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