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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: No. If a dispute arises between the two board members as to the record, one might say-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: What does Mr. Walsh do about it with the scant record that is taken?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: So, one would end up being a liar I suppose-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: It would be the WRC instead of a judicial review.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: The point is that Mr. Walsh is missing the point. The system does not work. There is no safeguard. If one was doing a cost-benefit analysis on a two-member quorum, the risk is outrageous. It is outrageous and yet predominantly we have decisions being made by two-member quorums across the board. An Bord Pleanála is exposing-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: It is gross negligence. It is gross negligence on the board's behalf, and what is worse is that Mr. Walsh is not prepared to admit it. This means we will not get anything done about it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am sorry, but before the Deputy starts, how much are the legal fees estimated for next year in the 2021 accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: Pardon?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: I apologise to Deputy Devlin.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: In the interest of fairness, I now go back to Deputy Brady. I assure Deputy Harkin she will get a chance to speak presently.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: Does the Deputy have a question?

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: I call on the Minister of State to give his closing statement.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: Deputy Brady can come back in if he gives everyone else a chance. I call Deputy Howlin.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: I ask the Minister of State to be concise.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: We will leave it at the question.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: A direct question was asked.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: The Minister of State should direct the answer to the Deputy.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: Next is an Independent Group slot. Deputy Harkin is sharing with Deputy Pringle.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: I thank the Deputy.

Post-European Council Meeting: Statements (13 Jul 2022)

Verona Murphy: That concludes the statements. We now have 20 minutes of question time. We will take it in the usual order. I ask everybody who wishes to ask a question to be concise and respectful so that everybody gets in. There is no set time. Bearing that in mind, and that there are five groups here, if everybody wishes to ask a question I will have to take all the parties first and come back for...

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