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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: We are supposed to find out whether taxpayers' money is spent in the correct way but we are not allowed determined who made the decisions. Our whole talk this morning in private session was because there is no accountability because officials consistently - not necessarily the group that is here today - come in knowing there is no outcome. There is no sanction and no issue. The house...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Yes, and they are all interrelated. How can a contract manager who was not qualified get re-employed the following Monday and on what basis? Was it to do with the succession planning that was highlighted in the whistleblower's report on the missing, elusive page 14 or was it some other function? I think that is perfectly relevant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I was just wondering.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Absolutely. I am not talking about that party at all.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I was just wondering was there any ice sculptures at these particular parties for people who were coming back to work the following Monday. That is all. It is a perfectly reasonable question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: That answers the question and now we know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In any event, could you ask was the re-employment of this person as a consultant relevant to the contract management, which had been done so well that the building is falling down? Or was it for some other purpose? I think that is perfectly relevant to public-private partnerships.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The HEA and the Department have to okay it, do you not, even though you were approached after he was re-employed as a consultant?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I do hear you on that. Have we guidelines-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Will Mr. Ó Foghlú come back to us next week?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In fairness, the Comptroller and Auditor General is the best auditor in the business but he is not in the human resources area. That is why I asked the national development management agency.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The other thing is that this individual did return as a consultant. If we lost all that expertise and it crystallised, as Mr. McCarthy said, what was he brought back to do? Is that not a reasonable question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I knew the context. Human resources is one thing and the national development management agency told us the kind of expertise they would seek. This person did not have that. They may have had knowledge because they were there in a position after the fact. We know it did not go all that well. We know they came back the following Monday as a consultant, but to do what, if we lost all this...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: May I ask one more question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I do not know who I am directing this question to. It just occurred to me. When people pay tolls - on the N4 it is €2.90 and on some of the other roads it is €1.90 - and they do not have the electronic tag which I and I am sure many of us have, they throw the €2 or €3 in but do not get their €0.10 change. Is any assessment done on the amount of money that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It would be great to put an estimate on the amount and perhaps we could prevail on the PPPs to consider whether they might donate the excess to charity.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I have nothing against my good colleague, Deputy Aylward, but why can one drive to Kilkenny on a motorway for free but it costs €2.90 at the toll to drive to Sligo.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: How does one determine which roads are tolled?

Strategic Communications Unit: Motion [Private Members] (20 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: That cost taxpayers' money. There is no level of morality associated with the "Leo the Vain" unit. This is €5 million of taxpayers' money. I will not even begin to list off the umpteen things Deputy Tony McLoughlin would like to do in Sligo with €5 million. Deputy Martin Kenny and I also have our list of things to do, as do all Deputies in the House. Deputy Micheál...

Strategic Communications Unit: Motion [Private Members] (20 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The sooner it abolishes this unit, the better.

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