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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: We can talk further during the week. Maybe the parliamentary legal adviser could give us some guidance, even if we cannot have the formal report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is where we make recommendations in our reports.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: All we can do is issue a recommendation on what we found to be wrong with the process and what needs to be corrected. We have held off from completing our work because of the other things that have not yet been completed. Maybe we will have to proceed on the basis of what we have found and issue a conclusion, sooner rather than later, notwithstanding the fact that issues might be ongoing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: Will we write to the Department on that basis?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the secretariat to draft a letter and to let Deputy Cullinane and me see the draft before it goes out. It is right to go back to the Department. If we are not happy with how it goes, we will have to report on the case as we find it. The next item is No. 2069 from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General, Department of Education and Skills, with documentation for...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: It relates to a premises in Bray. We will hold it over until the meeting, by which time we will have read it in detail.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: It could be happening on a widespread basis.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: We need to examine how legally valid are such leases. I agree with the Deputy. Perhaps we will hold it over and conclude it at our next meeting, with specifics. We will now move to correspondence from individuals. The committee has not met for a fortnight so there has been a slight build-up in correspondence. No. 2038, dated 4 March, is from an individual who is querying new...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is that only in respect of private nursing homes? Does the report deal with all nursing homes?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is good.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: What is the expected timeframe for the report?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: It may be September when it is laid before the Minister.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is timely. It is a big item of expenditure. We touched on it in our report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: No. 2048, dated 8 March 2019, is from Mr. Peter McCarthy, CEO of Enet, and provides information requested by the Committee. We will take it on board as part of our meeting with the Department on broadband. We will publish it because representatives of Enet appeared before the committee and this is a follow-on from that public meeting. No. 2049 is from Mr. John O'Dwyer, head of regulation...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: GPs do not have to participate. It is a voluntary coming together of GPs.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is all voluntary. From that point of view, it is an entirely voluntary process by groups of GPs in a region. Some GPs are involved and others choose not to be. It is a matter for them. We will forward the correspondence to the Joint Committee on Health. It is a matter for that committee. It is a voluntary affair and does not involve public funds. We will forward the correspondence...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: Did we cover it in an interim report?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: I think we covered it in our most recent periodic report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask the secretariat to check where we left off on this issue. If we issued a recommendation on the issue, we will send it to the two people concerned. The Committee of Public Accounts can do no more than make a recommendation. We will receive a response from the Department as part of the minute. I think we have done all we can.

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