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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: I have a small procedural question. When did Dr. Holohan send his submission in to the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Dr. Holohan sent it this morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: When did Dr. Holohan get the invitation to come to the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: I apologise if I missed that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: -----but it is becoming par for the course. It makes it difficult for us to conduct our business.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Apology accepted. I assume the officials from the Department all would have either read or watched the proceedings here yesterday with Ms Lorraine Walsh and Mr. Stephen Teap. Ms Walsh described being dismissed, ignored, bullied-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: My apologies. I was late due to traffic.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Are those the verbal comments that are reported in the media, the stuff that was written, or both?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: What was said was a fairly graphic description about a person who is known to all of us and about that person's treatment by the Department. There are so many campaigners on this who have given of their own time. As I stated yesterday, they gave up their time with their families to do that work. Has Dr. Holohan any comment as to why not all of the campaigners now have either confidence in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Following on from the proceedings here last night, is it Dr. Holohan's intention to act on the information that was presented or note what was said and move on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Might it, therefore, be possible for Dr. Holohan to provide us with an update on whatever actions are taken as a result?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: I am specifically referring to anything Dr. Holohan might be doing differently on foot of what was said yesterday. We all know what we are talking about. I was quite shocked - I must be frank with Dr. Holohan - by some of the commentary. I am sure Dr. Holohan was as well. I am wondering, arising out of that, if there is any specific action Dr. Holohan will take or, as Dr. Holohan said, if...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: It is difficult to reconcile the statement that Dr. Holohan cares greatly with what we heard last night. I say that because I would find that a considerable challenge. With regard to what the gentleman from RCOG referred to as the "remarkable coincidence", and it really is, would Dr. Holohan use that word? I will ask Mr. McCallion and Dr. Holohan if they would use that to describe what...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Okay. Would Mr. McCallion agree with it being a remarkable coincidence?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Will the witnesses describe very briefly how labels might have been taken off and put back on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: Any mislabelling occurred post the examination.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: That is fair enough. We then have the remarkable coincidence of that happening to prominent campaigners. That is definitely a remarkable coincidence and even that is a massive understatement. Mr. McCallion referred to difficulties with recruiting and retaining staff. He said that this remains a challenge. We have had some discussion on this. Mr. McCallion will know my view, from this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: How many of the positions are unfilled?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Louise O'Reilly: When does Mr. McCallion envisage this work being done? He has said it has gone to the planning stage. Are we talking about decades?

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