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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: On exempted development regulations, nine is the maximum that we think is prudent or possible but it would not necessarily proceed at that level. I would caution against delaying what we are trying to do on this. These exempted development regulations were laid before the House in December. I understand the concerns which have been raised and think they can be satisfied in the letter that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: But there is no change in the building regulations and what applies. What we are doing is seeing how the processes can be streamlined to ensure that people do not have to wait 12 months once they have -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Those technical documents will be with members shortly. If we can get the exempted development part of it passed today, it will allow people to begin to prepare to make those types of conversions and prepare that work so that by the time they get into this, the technical guidance will be published and the local authorities will have it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We are almost at completion. I will give the Deputy -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I do not see the need for delay because we are about to get there with the completion of this new streamlined process. We want to ensure that we do not delay. This is about getting potential, vacant -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We have been working diligently on them to get agreement on the standards and the new streamlined process. We laid the statutory instrument before the House in December, we had the engagement on Tuesday and will have a debate in the Dáil this afternoon. I hope we can proceed on it because we know we have the chance to unlock huge potential in vacant commercial stock into homes in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Is the Deputy referring to the loan scheme or the purchase scheme?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I referred to the purchasing scheme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Is the Deputy referring to the houses delivered through the land banks.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It is important to note that, while any reduction in homeless figures is welcome, we are not yet seeing a trend. When we put out the figures for December, I made the point that I do not want to give people false hope. A huge amount of work is going on between ourselves and our partners in the NGO sector to help people in this difficult crisis situation. I noticed on Twitter, now that I am...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It happened on one bank holiday Friday.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I can clarify that. As RTÉ was doing the programme, we made a specific effort to get them out in time for that RTÉ programme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It had them in the programme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: That is incorrect.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I went into the studio and the presenters specifically said to me, "Thank you for giving us the figures", and they reported them in the programme. We wanted to make sure I could not be accused of trying to hide the figures or publishing them the next day, so we made a specific effort to get them out in time. It is very unfair of the Deputy to make claims about a media strategy that is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is no evidence for that. We got the numbers out in time for the "Prime Time" programme. I got the numbers out on a Thursday after our meeting last week because I said I would.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is no change in strategy. We have to make sure we get these numbers out, that they are published and that they are accurate numbers which people can stand over. In regard to future reporting of numbers, work is going on in the Department to see how we can improve the numbers behind the numbers. As they are published at the moment, these numbers are not really telling people anything...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The funding line is the same for 2018. If we were to make that distinction, there might be an incentive for local authorities to delay bringing stock back into use in order to avail of this funding line.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The money being drawn down to get these homes back into use is quite substantial because they require substantial work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Update on Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (25 Jan 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The implication is that we are not reporting it accurately, which we are doing. As far as the voids programme and the money that is made available are concerned, those numbers are accurate.

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