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Seanad: Human Rights in China: Motion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Does the Tánaiste condemn what they are doing?

Seanad: Human Rights in China: Motion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Does he condemn it? . Deputy Micheál Martin:I emphasise that this position does not detract, in any way, from our long-standing concerns on the situation in Xinjiang or our commitment to upholding human rights globally. We continue to work with our partners in the EU as to how we can best move this issue forward in respect of proper assessment from the EU on the ground, following up on...

Seanad: Human Rights in China: Motion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It is a consideration.

Seanad: Human Rights in China: Motion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Derisk-----

Seanad: Human Rights in China: Motion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I thought the Minister of State, Deputy Thomas Byrne, came in to give the condemnation that the Tánaiste did not give, but there you go.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I welcome the witnesses and thank them for appearing before us. Like Senator Ruane, I may also have to leave before the end of this meeting to deal with the legislation in the Seanad so I offer my apologies in advance. I will focus on the Medical Council's submission. Please do not think me rude if I interrupt as I need to probe certain issues and time is always very limited here. In her...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: We are talking about the old council here?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: At what point was it proposed to excise those particular words and whose proposal was it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: This is important. When was it first mooted that this line be got rid of?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Under the old council?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: So the ethics committee is working on this. It is the ethics committee of the old council. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: About 12 months ago, it was proposed to excise this particular line that doctors must not participate in the direct killing of a patient.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Could Dr. Crowe be precise?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: What I am trying to establish is whether it was definitely within the period of the old council.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: So it would have been members of the old ethics committee that would have first considered this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: So it was the same personnel who were on the ethics committee of the new council.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: So even though there is a new council in place, the old membership of the ethics committee is working on this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Where did the impetus for getting rid of this line come from and what was the reason given for getting rid of this line?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I know that, but why is the line going? It is a big and important line and has been there for years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Healthcare Professionals and Assisted Dying: Discussion (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It is not a criminal statute. It is the Hippocratic oath. It is pretty ancient and has always been part of medical regulation. I do not understand why Dr. Crowe is saying it was somehow seen as out of keeping. One would have thought that it was medical ethics 101 that one would not participate in the direct killing of a patient.

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