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Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Verona Murphy has indicated. I ask the Deputy to be brief, with one question.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Do not make comments about individuals.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: To be fair, I want to allow Mr. Hogan to respond to that.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: In fairness.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is a policy decision of the Government. To be fair to the Deputy, though, there is frustration about appropriate densities. For example, we all see the need for higher densities in areas with transport hubs.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Ballacolla in County Laois, Wellingtonbridge in County Wexford or somewhere down in west Wicklow does not need the same density level. That is the issue. While I know it is a policy matter, Members of the Dáil and local authority members are frustrated and feel that, if officials include something in the draft Bill, it is difficult to get the Government to change it. It is not just...

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: No. I am sorry-----

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: I will let the Deputy contribute again briefly in a second. In some more sparsely populated areas, it is not feasible for a builder to provide houses if densities are too confined, as the builder could not get people to buy them. There needs to be flexibility and a recognition of this fact.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Briefly. We will not open up a debate on this.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: I want to let Mr. Hogan respond.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: No.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: I want to let Mr. Hogan respond briefly before we conclude.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am sorry, but no interruptions.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: In my innocence, I believed until recently that apartments were cheaper, but it turns out that-----

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----they cost between 80% and 100% more to build. School capacity is also a consideration in many of the rural areas in question. I do not want to open up the matter, as we are not dealing with it today, but we are using the opportunity of the witnesses' presence to tell them this and for them to take it on board.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am sorry, Deputies, but-----

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: What we need are mixed developments. The witnesses have been asked to revert on the question of the number of oral hearings in 2022.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Ms Buckley might outline them before we conclude.

Public Accounts Committee: An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2021 (27 Apr 2023)

Brian Stanley: Planning is always-----

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