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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: -----pull out some of that and submit an earlier draft. We are reaching a little if we assume it was a clerical error. This is not a bunch of documents, but something in electronic format. Would that pay-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: To get it printed-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: -----and presented to the Oireachtas.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is the part of the report other than what was presented to Mr. McCarthy internal to the document? Is it the last page?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not the first or last page.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would this not take work?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am sorry for harping on about this and I will not discuss it again, but the document reads: "The Board incurred material expenditure where the relevant goods and services had not been procured by way of a competitive process." How can there be a clear audit opinion if that is the case?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The arithmetic adds up to the totals and they concur. However,-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Right, but were there competitive tendering breaches?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Was it just a case of, for example, me getting Deputy Cassells to do a job because I knew him, he was local or I liked his price?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am sorry for going on but I promise that this will be my last question.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is any sanction applicable, applied or even stated as a sanction that ought to be applied?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The supplier did not get a chance.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Our main focus is not on A or B getting the job-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: -----or having the lowest price. It is more about not wanting C to sue because it did not get an opportunity to tender.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not about the lowest price. It is about sueability after the fact.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Economically advantageous-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In the event of us not having competitive processes, our concern as the State is not that we have to pay the lowest price. Deputy Cassells did the job, he charged X and that is good enough for me. I am not worried about what he got for doing the job. I am more concerned about Deputy Kelly suing me because Deputy Cassells got the job without there being an opportunity to compete. Is that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I apologise for going on.

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