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Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: I thank the Chairman. As members know, this is my first appearance before the committee and I would like to start by wishing the committee and its members well in their deliberations. I send my good wishes to and congratulate Deputy Jim Daly as he assumes the Chair. I wish him the best in his leadership role. I am very happy to be here to discuss my Department's 2016 Revised Estimate....

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: I will do so.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: I will focus on programme A in my Department's Vote, concerning the children and family support programme. The overall objective under this programme is to support and improve the existing service delivery arrangements to protect and support the welfare and well-being of children, young people and families, including oversight of Tusla, the Child and Family Agency. Two main components of...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Apologies for that. It is A4.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: The children's-----

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Some of Deputy O'Sullivan's questions dovetailed with those from other Deputies, especially in terms of Tusla, child welfare and protection, the concern about unallocated social workers, and the recruitment of social workers to help meet that concern. Additional funding of €6.1 million has been provided in 2016 to deal with this issue. Tusla's target is to reduce by 60% the number of...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: The overall objective of this programme is to continue to support the provision of universal and targeted services for the care, development and well-being of children and young people. The programme comprises the ECCE preschool year scheme, the general child care programmes, the child care initiatives, the youth organisations and services, the area-based childhood programme, and...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: That is an average estimate. It depends on parents' choices.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Technically speaking, that is the average number of weeks we are estimating. It is not to say that the programme is not available for longer. It is available for every child up until the time he or she enters primary school. I understand the Deputy's point. Chairman, should I be having this exchange?

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Of course. I thank the Chair.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: I thank Deputies for their questions, which dovetail quite a bit. Deputies Rabbitte and O'Sullivan referred to the expansion of the ECCE scheme. Children will have different start and end dates. The bottom line is that every child from the age of three years should have a place until he or she starts school should he or she wish to avail of it. It is anticipated that every child will...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Yes. Will the Deputy remind me of the content?

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: I accept that. There are two centres in County Kildare. I was told there are 18 in Kerry. The Deputy raised the issue and we must consider it. This is critical in the work of Tusla, which is supporting 109 communities in this regard with the family resource centre programme. It provides core funding to the established programme, which it has managed since 2014. This is the largest...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: It is subhead A3 and it comes under Tusla.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Yes.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: It was €13.9 million in 2015.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: This is the final programme in the Department's Vote. The committee might note that this is a wide-ranging programme which aims to oversee key areas of policy, legislation and inter-sectoral collaboration to improve the lives and well-being of children and young people. Subhead C3, relating to legal fees and settlements, has incurred no expenditure to date this year. As legal costs are...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: On Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes, Deputy Rabbitte's primary question has to do with the number and scope of institutions being investigated and whether that is sufficient. Obviously, the number was determined by the terms of reference. This is what the commission is engaged in, that is, reviewing the work to date and discussing some of these issues with us. What is...

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: Yes, thank you. That is a good suggestion and I can confirm that.

Select Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Revised)
(29 Jun 2016)

Katherine Zappone: That is correct. I do not have a formal statement other than to note that it relates, in the main, to pension and other salary deductions. The most significant portion of the income comes from Tusla. At the end of May, the income figures can be behind in profile but I note that in previous years income has met its profile targets.

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