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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: What measures did Ms O'Sullivan put in place to address those deficits?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Is Ms O'Sullivan satisfied with the whistleblower procedures that are currently in place? Does she think they help whistleblowers?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: What else needs to be done?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: In the context of what Ms O'Sullivan said earlier about repairing relationships, does she think there is still a cultural difference between uniformed gardaí and civilians? From the evidence given to this committee in recent weeks, it seems there is a disconnect between uniformed gardaí and civilians. What steps is the Commissioner taking to address that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It is accountable to the Government.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Ms O'Sullivan mentioned in her opening statement that the recommendations of the interim audit report will be implemented and that she is happy to provide periodic updates to the Comptroller and Auditor General. That indicates that it will take a very lengthy period of time. Will Ms O'Sullivan tell us how long it will take? We want to expedite it, as I am sure she appreciates.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: June 2017?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It will be December 2017?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I recommend that that deadline be met because this needs to be addressed. One of the most important things the public wants to ensure is that this type of thing does not happen again. In Ms O'Sullivan's opening statement she mentioned that she had a verbal briefing with Mr. Niall Kelly and requested a written report from him. Does Ms O'Sullivan have a contemporaneous note of that verbal...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It would be helpful if that could be provided to the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: That is fine. When Ms O'Sullivan talked about the appropriate action being taken by the Garda executive, what action does she envisage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It is the final paragraph.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: To go back to the Accounting Officer's reporting obligations, there is no formal requirement set out under the PFP for an Accounting Officer to inform the Comptroller and Auditor General of significant matters of concern. There is, however, an expectation and established practice that significant matters be communicated to the auditors at the earliest opportunity. Earlier, Ms O'Sullivan...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Has Ms O'Sullivan revised her view in respect of her obligations?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Okay. Where are we regarding the report on breath tests?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Okay. I have one or two more questions. I refer to Templemore. Does Ms O'Sullivan believe it is appropriate for serving gardaí to act as directors of companies with an interest in lands? Did the arrangements in Templemore breach section 29(3) in her view?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: What oversight is there to ensure serving gardaí do not breach that section?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: My final question relates to Mr. Barrett. Ms O'Sullivan mentioned that he was new and would not have understood sending documents off-site. If that is going to be a problem, how is she addressing it for people who are new so that they know what the processes are?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Is that new training?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Ms O'Sullivan.

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