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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: Okay, I think-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I am reluctant-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I am very happy to have the Deputy here and to listen to him but he is wrong in saying that these people are brought in here by anybody other than the members of the committee. They are here as-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I respect the Deputy, too. What I am trying to get across is that I did not invite any of these people personally. The committee invited them here and members of all parties and none are happy to have them here. Their proposal is their proposal. Notwithstanding what the Deputy is saying, I think it is important that they respond to his questions. It is not a political attack. They are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I think it is unfair to call it carry-on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I am sorry. I just want to get this right. Deputy Danny Healy-Rae is a good Kerryman and his accent is very clear and his point very straightforward. I would like us to get the answers to his questions, if we can, in a relaxed way. This is not a confrontation. It is a communication. Perhaps Mr. O'Reilly would like to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: We will see where we get once we have answered the ones he has posed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: In that sense, the criteria are no different from those for a taxi or hackney driver. The key point of the case is that there is no service whatsoever in the areas we are talking about.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: It is in the absence of any service.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I have to bring in Deputy Ó Cuív as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: There are no hackneys there, that is the whole point. It is in areas where there are none. The proposal they are making, which is purely for us to consider and debate, is in respect of areas where there is no service at all, just in case the Deputy missed that point. I will hear the Deputy in a second. The population will be under 1,000 and the distance proposed would not be greater than...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: We know that. I am trying to clarify everybody's point of view.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: I thank the Deputy for his comments. I am trying to get everybody to express their views. We are not making any judgments; we are very happy to hear the different views.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: It is a requirement that new ones have to be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: We must have them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: It is unacceptable that they would not be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: If it is helpful, over 200,000 of those who made trips with Rural Link needed assistance.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: We are speaking about a lot of people and there can be no exclusion. I am not stating that Deputy Ó Cuív is suggesting this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Taxis and Rural Transport Programme: Discussion (27 Feb 2019)

Fergus O'Dowd: In any proposal, disability must be an absolute sine qua non.

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