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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: This was a staple of the previous committee. There was an error in how the floor space was calculated and that is how this issue arose. Am I right in understanding that there is some degree of retrospection on this? I would have thought that would have been part of it. This just went on and on. Has there been any retrospection or is this just from now on?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Was that rent calculated over the entire period or from now on? That lease was for 25 years. It was a very long lease.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I particularly picked out a specific area. We all know there is a housing crisis. At the same time, there is a commitment in the programme for Government to cease direct provision or to work towards its cessation. This response tells us that 11 contracts involving 1,295 additional beds have been secured through this process so, in actual fact, we are going the other direction. I know...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: We should address the matter by way of correspondence first so that we can then take it up with the Department a second time because it is going the wrong way.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: However, there was an accommodation crisis when the programme for Government was put in place. There were then people in direct provision who had been through the process and this commitment was made even at that point so it is not the case that it was unknown. We knew there was going to be a challenge but has the external advisory group been informed? That is one of the key questions we...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Yes. The nub of the question is whether the external advisory group was informed. On the point Deputy O'Connor has made, which I support, we should not just ask about the provision of space and premises, but about the operators brought in to run the services. There are two aspects to the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Most of the section 38 and 39 organisations are not audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General so that responsibility lies with the HSE. The correspondence is very general and I agree with the Chairman that without specifics it is difficult to know the magnitude of what is being talked about and whether it is solid information. Each one of these organisations is audited and the HSE has...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I want to discuss a worrying matter in the letter. The correspondent claims that these issues are not being reported by the Comptroller and Auditor General. If the Comptroller and Auditor General finds something while conducting an audit what does he do?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Do the auditors of the almost 2,500 organisation have an equal obligation?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Would the HSE see those?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: What are the consequences if an auditor did not do that if it were subsequently found to be the case?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I have a query about internal audits. Over the years some organisations have found it difficult to hire auditors due to a lack of availability. I do not know if that is still the case but it certainly was a few years ago. I presume a sample audit is done of the organisations. The likes of the HSE would not be able to conduct an internal audit on all of the 2,500 organisations.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: We can ask the HSE how it chooses. Like ourselves, if we see an instance of non-compliance with procurement then that tends to act as a red flag but if there is a clear audit opinion then one tends to be less concerned. One is more concerned about the organisations that do not get a clear audit. It would be useful for us to understand the HSE's strategy and how it deploys its internal...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Internal audits.

Written Answers — Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment: Judicial Reviews (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: 171. To ask the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the number of judicial reviews taken against his Department in the past ten years to date in 2022, in tabular form; if he will indicate in the reply the body and or person that initiated judicial review proceedings; the number of judicial reviews that remain open and or active; and the totality of costs incurred by his Department...

Written Answers — Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment: EU Regulations (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: 173. To ask the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the date on which Section/Paragraph 19 of the European Communities (Credit Institutions: Accounts) Regulations 1992 was first amended to allow for the adoption of international accounting standards that delay the recognition of loan losses in view of the fact that the concept of prudence, as defined in Section/Paragraph 19 requires...

Written Answers — Department of Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Judicial Reviews (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: 177. To ask the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment the number of judicial reviews taken against his Department in the past ten years to date in 2022, in tabular form; if he will indicate in the reply the body and or person that initiated judicial review proceedings; the number of judicial reviews that remain open and or active; and the totality of costs incurred by...

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Judicial Reviews (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: 188. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport the number of judicial reviews taken against his Department in the past ten years to date in 2022, in tabular form; if he will indicate in the reply the body and or person that initiated judicial review proceedings; the number of judicial reviews that remain open and or active; and the totality of costs incurred by his Department as a...

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Judicial Reviews (13 Oct 2022)

Catherine Murphy: 208. To ask the Minister for Finance the number of judicial reviews taken against his Department in the past ten years to date in 2022, in tabular form; if he will indicate in the reply the body and-or person that initiated judicial review proceedings; the number of judicial reviews that remain open and-or active; and the totality of costs incurred by his Department as a result of judicial...

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