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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I recently met a little boy named Leo Dixon, who is nine years old and applied for funding because he requires a wheelchair. Will such an application land on the desks in the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth or will that responsibility remain with the HSE?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I know that. What will happen in the future?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: That funding is not coming from the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth. That is what I am asking.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: The reason I am concerned is that I know Mr. McCarthy is not sure. We are only a month away from the handover. Leo Dixon's application sat on a desk for nine weeks when he needed a wheelchair as quickly as possible. I sense that the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth is under quite a lot of pressure because of the Ukrainian crisis. We find ourselves in an...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: What discussions has the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth had with regard to ratifying the UN optional protocol in full? Have there been discussions in that regard?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Is there a timeline?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: That is only natural because otherwise we would be flooded with complaints. At the same time, it is discriminatory against those for whom we are not providing services if we remain outside the protocol. Those people have no one to whom they can complain. I asked the Minister, Deputy O'Gorman, if he is committed to ratifying the protocol. He says he is. The committee was told in 2020 that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Is money required for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Regarding Tusla, the Department's interventions and the funding, does the Department provide for respite care for the Tusla children groupings such as foster carers in a capital plan? These include foster carers who have taken care of autistic children for years but there is no respite for them. Is the Department's responsible for overseeing that with Tusla or is it Tusla's responsibility?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: It is a respite-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: That is my point. They do not, so I am asking whether there is a capital fund or capital infrastructure fund from the Department to provide that respite.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: It would or would not-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: So the Department has no input into that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: The Department does not have any input into-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Does the Department make recommendations?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: The Department is aware of the significant lack of respite. Could it share with the committee whatever correspondence it has had in that regard from a recommendation perspective as to where it is going?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I just want to understand the numbers relating to the national childcare scheme. A lot of money was returned, €119 million. Can the witnesses tell me why the participation level for these programmes fell short of the target?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Has there been an improvement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: The Department expects to fully utilise the budget then.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Again, there was a large amount returned to the Department by Pobal, €6 million. Was that due to similar circumstances?

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