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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: Will the Deputy, please, wait for one moment? The Minister of State has stated the rate is 12%.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: The answer is yes.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: I want to clarify a point with the Minister of State arising from a question put by Deputy McGrath. The Minister of State said that the overall cost of works at Leinster House will increase from €15 million. Is that correct?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: What does the Minister of State base this on?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: I understand that but on what does the Minister of State base the figures?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: I understand that but I am talking about the figures.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: The work can be seen, physically, but has the Minister of State quantified the level of overrun with regard to the €15 million? Does the Minister of State envisage or guess that it is €5 million, or are there actual reports from the contractors or individuals on site to say "Lads this is going to cost X percentage more". These things cannot be guessed. Will the Minister of...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: What figure does Mr. Buckley estimate from that control system for what it will cost over and above the €15 million?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: The Office of Public Works has a possible overrun on the Leinster House project and I understand the reason. That is not the question here. The OPW has an overrun on the €15 million and construction inflation may kick in on that overrun. There is also a request, it is presumed from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, to cut back OPW works to the tune of €3...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: Will the OPW still deliver the €3 million to the Department and the overrun on Leinster House?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: What does the Minister of State mean when he says the heritage side?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: Is it the Minister of State's budget?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: Okay. The €3 million will all be on the flooding side.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: Okay.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: I would like to clarify something regarding the table on page 5. In general, the Minister of State is stating that construction starting in 2019 may be delayed, for one reason or another, and that is where he may get the €3 million. Is that correct?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: That is what I am saying to the Minister of State.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: I am referring to the six schemes presented by the Minister of State. They may very well be held up as part of this process.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: It is because those schemes may be held up that the Minister of State will get his €3 million in savings. That is my point.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: There is a report about flooding in different areas on the website of the Minister of State's Department. Two of those areas are in Kilkenny city. One has never flooded in 25 years. That report, however, is being used by the insurance company as a reason not to give a quotation for flood insurance. As a result, the property owners in that estate are not able to sell their properties.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(12 Feb 2019)

John McGuinness: That is correct.

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