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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Business of Joint Committee (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I propose that we go into private session very briefly in order to deal with some housekeeping matters.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The purpose of today’s meeting is to consider the need to reform public works contracts for the construction of transport infrastructure. I welcome from the Department of Transport, Ms Ethna Brogan, assistant secretary, Mr. Andrew Ebrill, principal officer, and Mr. Dominic Mullaney, principal adviser on roads. They are all very welcome. I thank them for accommodating us on this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: May I ask a question? I will leave plenty of time. The 2:1 ratio appears to apply just to new projects.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It does not apply to existing projects.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is a significant point of clarity. Second, regarding the 2:1 ratio being brought in, is it six or seven projects?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The question then is how they have been impacted by the new 2:1 ratio that has been implemented.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will hand back to Deputy O'Connor.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why is that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: However, the ceilings for climate targets are far more severe in the second five years of the decade than for the first five years. It appears that when we need the funding it is not there, but when the funding is there the question is whether the projects will even qualify under the targets. I am just posing that question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Deputy O'Rourke has facilitated Senator Horkan contributing earlier, as the Senator has another engagement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will follow up. It will come out of today's meeting that we will have to have them before us. It is a natural sequence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It provides the funding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I assume the Department would not provide the funding unless it signed off on a project.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Ultimately, it is the final arbiter of whether projects go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Who is telling you this, Ms Brogan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: As Deputy Carey is still not available, I call Deputy Ó Murchú.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Senator Buttimer have further comments to make? Did I inadvertently cut across him?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Senator Buttimer should conclude his contribution now, as Deputy Ó Murchú is giving way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Regarding the six projects mentioned that did not proceed, if they were to proceed, based on the requisite allocations, how much of an additional funding requirement would that be? Following on from Senator Buttimer’s question, what is the impact of the current inflationary measures on the delivery of the specific projects to which the €331 million has been allocated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: No, how much funding was involved for those six projects?

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