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Written Answers — Department of Health: Dental Services (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: 183. To ask the Minister for Health the number of persons on dentistry waiting lists by CHO at the end of 2021 and at the latest available data point broken down age and by the length of waiting time by age in tabular form. [11879/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Dental Services (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: 184. To ask the Minister for Health the number of persons on orthodontics waiting lists by CHO at the end of 2021 and at the latest available data point broken down age and by the length of waiting time by age in tabular form. [11880/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Disabilities Assessments (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: 185. To ask the Minister for Health the number of persons on assessment of need waiting lists by CHO at the end of 2021 and at the latest available data point broken down age and by the length of waiting time by age in tabular form. [11881/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Disabilities Assessments (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: 186. To ask the Minister for Health the number of persons on further diagnostic assessment waiting lists by CHO at the end of 2021 and at the latest available data point broken down age and by the length of waiting time by age in tabular form. [11882/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Health Services (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: 187. To ask the Minister for Health the number of persons on diagnostic waiting lists by CHO at the end of 2021 and at the latest available data point broken down age and by the length of waiting time by age in tabular form. [11883/22]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: I thank the witnesses. I will put all my questions sensitively because there are families who are still grieving and hurt by what happened. We must have that lens very clearly with us when we look at these issues and ask our questions. Obviously, families want answers but they also want accountability. I will start with Mr. Fitzgerald who is the chief officer. In earlier discussions,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Does the ECD report to Mr. Fitzgerald?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: The opening statement from the HSE stated the Maskey report identified a number of deficits in respect of governance, supervision and oversight, clinical practice and administrative processes within the south Kerry CAMHS team. There was an acceptance earlier that there was a failure in clinical supervision. I accept Mr. Fitzgerald accepts there was a failure in clinical supervision.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Mr. Fitzgerald accepts there was a failure. That is what I wanted to hear. Who is ultimately responsible for the management and the process of clinical supervision within south Kerry CAMHS?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: No, I am talking about at the top. Who is ultimately responsible for making sure there is good, sound clinical supervision?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Can I stop Mr. Fitzgerald there? It is Mr. Fitzgerald at the very top. If the HSE accepts there was a failure in clinical governance and the buck stops with Mr. Fitzgerald, does that mean there was a failure on his part in his role, if there was a clear failure of clinical supervision in this case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: No, I am putting the questions to Mr. Fitzgerald. He is ultimately responsible for clinical supervision. This is my time. We go around the houses but people want to know who is responsible for what. I am putting my questions to Mr. Fitzgerald and asking him to answer those questions. He accepted there was a failure in terms of clinical supervision. He accepted also that, ultimately, if...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: I know about the report. I think Mr. Fitzgerald knows what my question is. I will put the question again. Des he in his role as chief officer, because that is what he is and these are very senior and very well-paid roles, accept responsibility for any of the failures given that the buck stops with him? It is a very clear, simple question. It cannot be any simpler.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: I will put the question in a different way. Is it not his job to make sure there is good, sound clinical supervision within those services?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Okay. We go back to who was in the role previously. This is the problem. We have all these hearings. Nobody takes responsibility for anything. It is always somebody else's fault or somebody else's responsibility. If we have a report that tells us very clearly there were failures in governance, supervision, oversight, clinical practice, administrative processes, then there were clearly...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Can I ask if the whistleblower was asked to take time off?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Why not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: It would be unfair if he was asked to take time off. We cannot get answers to that question. This is the Oireachtas committee which is looking into these issues. One of the issues which arises out of this saga is the treatment of a whistleblower. It is in the public domain. Many things have been said which may or may not be true. We are here, as Oireachtas Members, to get to the truth...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: Can Mr. Fitzgerald give me an answer as to why he will not comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

David Cullinane: I will make a comment rather than ask a question. When people say there is a lack of a culture of accountability and transparency in the HSE, I look to all of the good staff across the HSE and in our public hospitals and public services who do great work. At the top and at management level, however, there is not a culture of accountability and transparency. It is absolutely unacceptable...

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