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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The committee will follow up on that. We will probably look to bring before the committee the Department of Transport and probably the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to discuss the structure of contracts. TII, which is the body responsible for infrastructure provision in Ireland, is before us as a public committee of national representatives. As Deputy Lowry said, this sets...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform is a key partner as well, though.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will take up the matter relatively soon after Easter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Deputy O'Rourke has approximately seven minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Senator Buttimer can come in in a minute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We now move to Senator Buttimer, who has approximately seven minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Roadbridge is a big company in Limerick city. Its collapse brought shudders of shock in the mid-west region affecting 630 staff and several projects. We will do a body of work on the reform of public contracts. There are three items. As far as I am aware, the Irish Government Economic and Evaluation Service, IGEES, is currently looking at resource planning and the regulatory process. Am...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: However, TII has expressed a view-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is it more a resourcing process issue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: When Mr. O'Neill talks about a resource issue, is he talking about An Bord Pleanála?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Am I correct in saying that Government is looking at that issue as we speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Our understanding is that it was. We will follow up on that. Okay, I understand that specific one. I ask Mr. Walsh to explain the alignment of stakeholders because I do not quite understand it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I ask Mr. Walsh to give me an example.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I would have thought alignment of stakeholders and then resourcing, planning and regulations are all related. There are aspects that feed into that. Again, TII projects are being delayed because bodies have terms of reference for their particular issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am not asking Mr. Walsh to comment. Regarding the reform of public works contracts, let me distil it down. Roadbridge had a very good reputation. It was one of the premier civil engineering contractors in Ireland and had gone international but has now collapsed. We have seen other collapses. With the current fixed-price contract tender process, how long will it be before we see others...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Let me put it another way. In the current model for the fixed-price contract where it is fixed for two years when they physically commence work, that contract may have been tendered for two years previously meaning that the pricing could have been done four years before turning a sod on the ground to commence the works. How sustainable is the current fixed-price model?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is TII putting inflation running at currently, where contracts are concerned? It must be seeing it with contracts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It has gone up by the bones of €1,050. Which is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland Projects and Related Issues: Discussion (6 Apr 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: On what?

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