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Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Professor Fitzpatrick mentioned that the original idea was that the national paediatric hospital would be located adjacent to the Coombe Hospital.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is that site there or is it gone?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is not the Player Wills site.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have the map, yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: No. Player Wills is out of NAMA now.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know. I just wanted to know.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: When we meet the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board, we will talk money, but we need to understand the medical background to ensure we ask the right questions. Of the 200 babies Professor Fitzpatrick just mentioned, how many of them are being born in the Rotunda or Holles Street hospitals?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: They would not all be happening in the Coombe Hospital anyway.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Under this plan, would it have involved taking the babies at risk-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: And Northern Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I want to be sure we understand that before we speak to the paediatric board, and Professor Fitzpatrick will know this off the top of his head. We are the Committee of Public Accounts. We are not the Committee on Health, so we do not have this information, but it would be helpful for our understanding of the position to know approximately how many children are being born in the Coombe,...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: In other words, would sorting out one of the three maternity hospitals in Dublin by having it adjacent to Professor Fitzpatrick's hospital do much for the other two thirds of children being born in the other hospitals? I am just asking the question.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: In terms of being close to the new paediatric hospital. If Crumlin hospital is integrated into the St. James's Hospital site, that is fine for Crumlin hospital, but it does not solve anything for babies born in Holles Street or the Rotunda. I am probably asking the question in a very-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: While he did not say it, I detect from Professor Fitzpatrick that because St. James' is an adult hospital and has a cancer specialty, it is possible that staff from there may be more interested in having spare capacity on the site for cancer services rather than maternity services. I get the impression that this is a worry.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is that Holles Street?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Sorry.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Professor Fitzpatrick said that it is important to at least commence talking about the design, to start a process and to get it into the Government capital plan. I take it Professor Fitzpatrick is saying that it is not specifically in the capital plan. Is the move of Holles Street to St. Vincent's-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am thinking out loud. Somewhere in the ether, people are saying that they will build a new maternity hospital at St. Vincent's and that is it for the moment. Professor Fitzpatrick must be a bit concerned.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know it does not. Professor Fitzpatrick must be concerned that some people are thinking that they will do one at a time.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: For our background information, we keep hearing about the satellites in Tallaght and Blanchardstown. Give us a layperson's version of what will be different in the new national paediatric hospital. Are they outpatient clinics?

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