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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: No, somebody here will. Ms McPhillips must know this anecdotally.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: In what airports in what countries is this happening?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: At European points of departure?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. O'Sullivan must have some sense of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it Rome?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it Madrid?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it Paris?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Hold on. When people come off a plane, they are corralled into a queue and the first person they meet is the garda at passport control.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is the first person they always meet.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am sorry. It is not a garda but a member of the Department's staff. There are also members of the Garda knocking around at that point. If people, then, get there and they do not have a passport-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----I presume they are brought to one side and a garda and immigration officers arrive at that stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: This is what I am saying to the witnesses. Approximately 200 people may have got off a flight, for example, from Lanzarote or Lagos. This is a scenario that happens.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: We know the destination those people have come from. Now-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Sorry-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: People are not free to just walk in and by where the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes, I remember it that way.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is, therefore, mainly European airports.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: What we are hearing is incredible. On the fines imposed, according to the figures published, nine of ten passengers refused permission to land at Dublin for not having the required documentation were subsequently allowed to stay. Figures published in the last fortnight in the newspapers stated that 6,765 of 7,662 who presented were allowed to stay. A figure of 98%, however, was mentioned....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is 98%. The figures given in that newspaper article then actually underestimated the number.

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