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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: I thank Mr. Geoghegan. Earlier we thought we would not have enough seats for everybody in attendance, but we do now. I have, therefore, invited the other groups present to join us. I propose that we continue with the presentations and take questions afterwards. I am pleased, therefore, to welcome the representatives of the Irish Hospital Consultants Association who include Mr. Martin...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: I thank Dr. Keenan for giving of his time and expertise in putting together his presentation for the committee. We really appreciate it. The next speaker is Mr. Tony Duffin from the Ana Liffey Drug Project.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Thank you, Mr. Duffin. The final speaker is Ms Anna Quigley of the CityWide Drugs Crisis Campaign.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Excellent.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Thank you very much. That concludes the contributions of our speakers. Thank you all for staying within the time and for being concise, brief and most interesting. Four members have indicated that they have questions. We will ask a question and then get an answer and so on. I call on members to confine themselves initially to three questions. Then we will move around until we run out of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Who are you directing that question to?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: We will give the consultants an opportunity to respond first, followed by Ms Quigley. Who wants to respond?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: What is coming out so far is that the Portuguese model is worth exploring and investigating and we need more research and facts and figures, which I think we got anyway when we were there. It is not a panacea or the only thing, however. There are many other things that need to happen around this area. That is what is emerging from the meeting so far. Deputy McGrath has a third question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: I thank Mr. Geoghegan for bringing us back to the centre of our debate today, which is the Portuguese approach. They have moved from criminlisation to the health system. In fact, they recommend that we do not even talk about decriminalisation. They talk about moving to health rather than the criminal justice system. Dr. Keenan wanted to come back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Could Mr. Keane tells what these substances are?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Deputy O'Brien has three questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: I thank the Deputy and I ask Ms Malone to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: I have a question on resources. Ms Malone and others spoke about the cost of keeping people in prison and a figure of €69,000 per annum was mentioned. It must be noted that unless we close down a prison, we do not make massive savings. One must also take into account the costs associated with court cases, with gardaí being tied up waiting for cases to be called, the work of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Yes, but obviously this committee is concerned with matters of justice, which is why we are looking at the issue from that point of view. Other Oireachtas committees can look at this issue from a health point of view. Our concern is with the justice system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Submissions on Drugs Review: Discussion (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: If Mr. Kirby gives the reference to the clerk to the committee, we can get a copy of it. One of the messages I am picking up from this session is hasten slowly and not to rush into this, that more research and a wider debate is needed. I hope this is the start of the debate. All submissions to, and the transcript of, this meeting will be sent to the Minister of State for his consideration....

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Choice of Court (Hague Convention) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: This meeting has been convened to consider the Choice of Court (Hague Convention) Bill 2015 and the Criminal Justice (Mutual Assistance) (Amendment) Bill 2014. I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Ó Ríordáin, and his officials to this meeting. We will commence with the Choice of Court (Hague Convention) Bill 2015. There are no amendments tabled to the Bill. If anybody...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Message to Dáil (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil:The Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality has completed its consideration of the Choice of Court (Hague Convention) Bill 2015 and has made no amendments thereto.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Criminal Justice (Mutual Assistance) (Amendment) Bill 2014: Committee Stage (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: We will now consider the Criminal Justice (Mutual Assistance) (Amendment) Bill 2014. There is only one amendment tabled but if members want to intercede or comment on a section, as I call out the section or reach it, they should feel free to let me know and they can do so. Otherwise, I will merely proceed to dispose of the sections.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Message to Dáil (14 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil:The Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality has completed its consideration of the Criminal Justice (Mutual Assistance) (Amendment) Bill 2014 and has made no amendments thereto.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Business of Select Committee (13 Oct 2015)

David Stanton: Apologies have been received from Deputy Finian McGrath. I understand Deputy Wallace will attend in substitution for him. As we are in public session, I ask those present to turn off all mobile telephones as they cause interference, even on silent mode, with the recording equipment in the committee rooms. I welcome the Minister of State and his official to the meeting. Before we begin,...

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