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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Mr. O'Brien will name them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: He will not refer to them as laboratory A, B or C.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: He will name them and we will be able to clearly see whether what Dr. Gibbons said in 2008 was correct, namely, that outsourcing would lead to an increased number of false negative results in ten years' time. If that is not the case, why did CPL settle the case with Vicky Phelan for €2.5 million? Why would it do that? Why would it say, "here is €2.5 million but there is no...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: I do not want to get into that yet as I will lose my time and I want to ask the chief medical officer a question. At any stage did the chief medical officer have a discussion with the Minister for Health, Deputy Simon Harris, be it a conversation over a cup of coffee or in a corridor, about the Vicky Phelan case in advance of the Minister being formally told through the note he read out in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Dr. Holohan knew about it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: But Dr. Holohan did not tell him at any stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Before the briefing note, was there any indication about it in private conversation? Anything at all?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Never. I know there were no emails and no smoking gun but was it never mentioned to him?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: I put this question to Mr. Gleeson. Who did he kick it up the line to?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Was that Charles O'Hanlon or Dr. Gráinne Flannelly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Who was it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: I just named them both.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Will Mr. Gleeson give me the title again please?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: So it was Charles O'Hanlon to whom Mr. Gleeson kicked the issue. Does the chief medical officer know if he kicked it up any further?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Did Charles O'Hanlon kick it up further?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: By Charles O'Hanlon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: I am going to shut up but I find it so incredible-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: We got his title.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: As my mother used to say, "All you have to do is ask Dougal." We just have to Google it and we will find out who it is.

National Cervical Screening Programme: Statements (1 May 2018)

Bríd Smith: Acting Chairman, that is disgraceful.

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