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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: No, Garda vetting would be completely different. From the position of being a senior official as a civil servant in local government, surely standards in public office would have the highest standing, even over or equating with Garda vetting. Would Ms Quinn agree with that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will just read something like this now. This is what has been reported. The commission found that the "content, tone, style and language" of the emails issued were not appropriate and "fell below what is expected of someone in his position". It concluded that the contraventions were "serious" and were committed "recklessly" by Mr. Enright, who did "not act in good faith" and failed "to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: That was publicly reported in the paper.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am reading from the actual SIPO report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I can ask the question now that I was coming to. The Secretary General said he was not involved. We find ourselves in a position. I am not sure how many chief executives of county councils there are in the country. Does Mr. Doyle have a quick figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: All right. How many of the 31 chief executives does Mr. Doyle think have a damning SIPO finding behind their position as chief executive?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: It is one, I would imagine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: That one person has been appointed to the Housing Finance Agency by the Minister since that finding was made. I have a question for Mr. Doyle on what he said to me. As Secretary General, does he advise the Minister in any shape or form on appointments such as this? He had said that all senior officials should be of the highest integrity and should be trustworthy and honest. This poor...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: This is a matter of public record.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will come back in, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I wish to return to Mr. Doyle, bearing in mind that we are in a public forum and this is the Committee of Public Accounts and that people are looking in. Would the Secretary General consider appropriate the appointment of a chief executive to the board of the Housing Finance Agency, in light of the damning Standards in Public Office Commission report, SIPOC?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: We have not mentioned any name. This is all of this is in the public domain and we have the SIPOC report. I will ask Mr. Doyle another question. Does Mr Doyle have regard for the standards in public office, the detail being in the name, which he and I abide by as public servants?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Does he have regard for the findings of SIPOC?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Doyle will, therefore, appreciate that in the context of where only 3% of complaints made are investigated, which is how seriously SIPOC takes its role, that it would be a very serious allegation before SIPOC would consider it. In that, the finding was an adverse one against a person as a public official. Can I ask Mr. Doyle to look at this in this context, bearing in mind that the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am asking Mr. Doyle about his view as the Secretary General in advising the Minister. Every Secretary General who has appeared before the Committee of Public Accounts is, in some shape or form, responsible. I am not asking if the Minister has accepted his view but I am asking is if he has a view as the person in the position which he holds? Mr. Doyle said he had regard, a high regard I...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Ministers come and go but Mr. Doyle has-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I did not ask the Secretary General a question there as that part of my question was a statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am not personalising this as we must have accountability. Perhaps Mr. Doyle is not able to answer the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Did I say that?

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