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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: It has been weaponised by a man who has invaded a country. That is who it has been weaponised by.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank Deputy Michael Healy-Rae for the points he raised. I know he has an understanding of the real world, especially small businesses. Like the Minister, Deputy McGrath, I have been approached directly by businesses, which have sent me pictures of their bills. I fully understand the challenge that is developing and the need to respond to it. I agree with everything the Minister, Deputy...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Deputy very much. It is not the case that there is a Government agreement in place regarding the scale of measures for this year and that money is going to be set aside for the future challenges, but we are not telling people; it is that we are working on all of this at the moment. The decisions will be made just before the budget and we will announce them at that point. In...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: The taxation commission has brought forward the set of options for this and future Governments to consider. Some of the recommendations it brought forward are difficult in the current economic environment with the pressures on living standards that we discussed at length here this evening. The Government will consider the report fully now that we have noted it this morning. There will be...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: We have just seen an energy company leave Ireland. The prices being charged by many of the energy companies to which the Deputy refers are determined by the purchase price of the energy they need. I strongly reject Deputy Boyd Barrett's suggestion that the cause of where we are at the moment is corporate malpractice or companies charging more for energy than they should. I do not accept...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: We have a lot of work under way in the Department of Finance, as do our colleagues in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, to try to capture what would be the impact of budget decisions, how they differentiate by gender and by different groups in society. We are committed, on budget day or shortly afterwards, to try to publish a more rounded assessment of what we have done beyond...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: To build on what the Minister said, it is my experience that there has been a significant change in this area in Departments that come to the Departments of Public Expenditure and Reform and Finance. I have definitely seen in recent years that when Ministers and their officials are bringing forward proposals they are couching them more in terms of what impact they could have on children and...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes, absolutely. The challenge with indexation, as I mentioned in an earlier exchange with the Chairman, is the costs involved in delivering it and how we reconcile that with all of the other commitments we are expected to deliver. The Minister covered that.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: There are opportunities to make adjustments to our VAT code now on foot of the new directive implemented by the EU before the summer. I used some of that flexibility earlier this year to lower VAT on electricity. There is also additional flexibility in VAT on some forms of equipment and investment. As such, the point is a fair one. What I now need to do is try to reconcile some ideas that...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: I accept that that is a risk, but with €1 billion worth of tax proposals at the moment, I will not be making proposals that, in and of themselves, are capable of adding to inflationary pressure. To be making-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: I am because it is €1 billion. To make tax proposals that are capable of adding to inflationary pressures within our economy, we would need a tax package worth many multiples of €1 billion. When people see our budget day tables, in which we will lay out whatever tax proposals the Government agrees, they will see net change in disposable income versus the rates of inflation...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: All we are saying is that targeted changes in taxation have a role to play in helping with that additional cost. However, they will not be of a scale that can add to inflationary pressure at home.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: The Minister, Deputy McGrath, summed it up when he spoke about timings. Another energy ministers meeting will take place at the end of the month. If we are in a position to have clarity about a good figure that we can stand over for use next year and about which we can give an indication to the Oireachtas and the public, of course we will do so. However, we are conscious of the fact that,...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: From the work that we have done in analysing the companies that would be affected, it is likely that we would only have precise clarity about the taxes that would accrue through measures such as this one well into 2023. It is possible that we may form a forecast well before then. If we can do so sooner rather than later, we will, but the measures for 2023 will be funded from the tax revenue...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: Thank you.

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Real Estate Investment Trusts (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: Section 23 of the Finance Act 2016 introduced the Irish Real Estate Fund (IREF) tax regime to address concerns raised regarding the use of collective investment vehicles by non-residents to invest in Irish property. An IREF is an investment undertaking where 25% or more of the value of that undertaking is made up of Irish real estate assets. IREFs are required to deduct a 20% withholding tax...

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Tax Data (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: I am advised by Revenue that, due to its obligation to protect taxpayer confidentiality, as provided for in section 851A of the Taxes Consolidation Act 1997, it is not possible to provide details of the tax payments requested by the Deputy. I am informed by the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications, that other monies are collected by the Minister for the Environment,...

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Budget 2023 (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: As the Deputy will be aware, it is a longstanding practice that the Minister for Finance does not comment, in advance of the Budget, on any tax matters that might be the subject of Budget decision. The correspondence provided by the Deputy will considered as a pre-budget submission.

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Tax Collection (14 Sep 2022)

Paschal Donohoe: Section 865 Taxes Consolidation Act 1997 (TCA) provides a general right to repayment of tax where a person has paid tax which is not due. Section 865(4) TCA provides that that right is subject to the making of a claim within a statutory limit of four years after the end of the chargeable period to which the claim relates. That statutory limit is binding on Revenue as well as on taxpayers....

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