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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: How did these situations - false accounting, fraudulent invoicing, employee fraud - arise? What did Mr. Doyle do since the public became aware of this through “RTÉ Investigates”? What did he do personally as the Secretary General? Did he do anything?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will be more direct because I do not have time. Has anyone been put on garden leave?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Have there been no suspensions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will probably come back to that because there is a situation in the Department of Health in which someone gave us vast amounts of information that was critical to how we understand funding and how Departments spend money, and that individual was suspended for doing a public service. It is beyond me that following the “RTÉ Investigates” programme nothing happens. Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: As the Secretary General of a Department, Mr. Doyle is saying that if a convicted rapist is going to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I did not ask you that. I asked what you would do if it did happen. Would you say that you have nothing to do with the matter? Is it the case that as the Secretary General over the Department on a vast salary, you would not make any interjection or do anything? Even though senior officials are supposed to have credentials like integrity, trustworthiness and honesty, would you have nothing...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Is it the case that you have no input whatsoever? Under the standards in public office regime we operate, if somebody of that profile applied for a job and was given it by one of the county councils, would you have nothing to say? Are you telling me that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: So you are telling me-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Chair, I do not want to run out of time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: It is a very straightforward question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Sure we do not need to know the vacancy, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: He has said they are vetted.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Well I think-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will need the time then, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Okay, so the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am going to have to take a few minutes to finish this out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Ms Quinn is saying that the Department has an involvement in that it vets the potential applicants and then makes recommendations to the county councillors. Is that correct? The Department goes through all that process.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I have a quick question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I have a quick question. That is enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: If an applicant had a very damning SIPO finding alongside their application, would they move on and would they be recommended? Would somebody like that, for instance, be recommended?

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