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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: A presentation was made to the board on 3 April, which basically outlined issues relating to costs and timelines. Mr. Reid might send a copy of that to the committee in the next week or so. If there was a further update on that presentation, he might send it to us also. Has Mr. Breslin anything to add?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Will this affect the actual project timelines?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: We will see in the coming weeks and months. Regarding University Hospital Limerick, UHL, I got mobilised into politics because I opposed the Hanly report. I have a sign up in my office from that time. There was the Teamwork report and all the other reports. In fairness, the Minister was one of the first Ministers to come in here and say that reconfiguration in the mid-west was a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I am a mid-west TD and a number of colleagues here are from Clare and Limerick. The situation in UHL is the worst I, or any of us, have ever seen. I want to take this out of party politics, genuinely, because I live among these people. I live over the road from this hospital even though I am in a different county. This is something I take a personal interest in every day. I have never...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: We are way behind. There are short-term, medium-term and long-term needs. In the short term we need more transitional beds and more nurses and doctors. It is obvious what needs to happen to integrate the services with non-acute services. What Maria Bridgeman is trying to deal with in the hospital is also impossible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: We have a 60-bed modular unit but it will not be delivered in the timeline originally put forward. We need to be honest about that. I do not wish to make a political point of it but it will not be delivered until the following year. Let us call a spade a spade. The 90 bed unit will not be provided for in the three-year capital plan. The issue is the estimated €40 million...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: We need intervention and we need it now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I do not want Mr. Reid to take this the wrong way but the response is pathetic. This is a crisis.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It is discrimination at this stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Why is it a three-year plan instead of a five-year plan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: The Minister does not expect us to believe that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: We have waited 70 years and nothing has happened.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Many. This is a quick-fire round. I have tried to be non-political in this matter. There is not enough urgency attached to the mid-west by the Minister and Mr. Reid in particular. I am not going to tolerate what is going on there anymore. I have to hold people to account to a level that has never been seen before. It is going to happen. I spent all morning dealing with cases in the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It would help to take the pressure off what is going on there. We need intermediate vehicles in order that people are not stuck inside for the weekends. The current way of transitioning people out of the hospital and into step-down facilities is not working. I am dealing with Maria Bridgeman and Colette Cowan all the time. They are two fantastic people and I have no issue with the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I am done now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I could not get a full answer so I just ended up making a statement. Tell me if I am wrong, it would be just a yes-no answer. When the new audit comes into place for CervicalCheck, it will begin on the day after the last audit finished. In other words, there will not be a gap period where there is no audit. I said this last week and nobody contradicted me so I presume I am correct in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: That is not what I asked. This is scary stuff. The audit has to begin the day after the last audit finished. That is it, or else there is a big problem. Trust me. I know what is going on here. It has to start the day after the last one finished.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It has nothing to do with the report. That is a decision for the witnesses here. I understand that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I just want the percentage and to know that it is going to be complete.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Meeting on Health Issues: Discussion (2 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I just want to make sure this is going to be delayed.

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