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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Is that €200 million right across the board for all services?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: This year, the Minister and the Department approved the service plan very late in the day. I certainly hope we will not be waiting as long this year. Could I ask, and I do not expect the witnesses to have the information today, about waiting lists? They provided some details on that. The number of patients waiting for inpatient and day case procedures is over 5,000. A further 44,000 - an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Yes, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Does Ms Hardiman actually sit down with people like Dr. Green and Professor McCormack, people with experience, to discuss solutions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Is Ms Hardiman saying that there is a task force that is made up of both sides?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Who is representing the surgeons on this task force?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. I thank Ms Hardiman and I have just a few more questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Sorry, but to clarify, is Ms Kelly the clinical lead on that? Yes, that is fine. Part of what was proposed earlier on as to solutions was the whole question of the plan for the National Orthopaedic Hospital Cappagh and its funding and that that could be brought on stream within a ten month period. Where does that stand at the moment and when will a decision be taken on the funding of that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Okay, but on the bigger proposal to designate Cappagh as the elective centre for paediatric orthopaedics, is there support for that proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Does the proposal for that major centre also have to await the service plan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Okay, I thank Mr. Woods. My final question is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: I appreciate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Hopefully we will see all that coming on stream. My questions are on what is going to happen immediately and how quickly can the many, many children who are on that waiting list be seen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: But that is not sufficient. The point has been made that those theatres are lying idle at the weekends. Why can we not open up those theatres and do what Professor McCormack has suggested and what he did himself, two years ago? Why can we not take that kind of can-do approach in maximising the use of existing theatres rather than all of this talking about building projects for the future?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: How can they be facilitated to work on Saturdays and Sundays?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: What is Ms Kelly going to do to make that happen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: There would be an interest in hearing from our witnesses precisely what they are going to do about that and the timescale involved. We would welcome more detail on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: This is my very final question, Chairman. Many parents have said to me that because of the chaotic nature of the waiting lists and of course the fact that we have a two-tier health service, they have to borrow or get money somewhere in order to see a consultant privately as an outpatient in order to get on the public inpatient waiting list. Is this the case and what are our witnesses going...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Delays in Accessing Scoliosis Treatment and Surgery: Discussion (11 Nov 2021)

Róisín Shortall: Will that not continue as long as there is a shortage of consultants? It is estimated we are about seven or eight consultants short of what we need for a standard ratio.

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