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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 16 - Tailte Éireann (Revised)
Vote 23 - An Coimisiún Toghcháin (Revised)
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Revised)
(13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: That is €20 billion as the overall spend between public and private. Could we break it down into a 60:40 spend or what is the breakdown between public money and private investment?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 16 - Tailte Éireann (Revised)
Vote 23 - An Coimisiún Toghcháin (Revised)
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Revised)
(13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: I thank the Minister of State.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: I welcome everybody to this meeting of the Joint Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage, which we have convened to receive an update on Housing for All. I welcome the Minister, Deputy Darragh O'Brien, Minister of State, Deputy Dillon, and Minister of State, Deputy Noonan, and their officials to the meeting and thank them for their attendance. The opening statement and relevant...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: I thank the Minister. I would also include in his remarks on the work that the committee has done that we could not have done that without the assistance of the secretariat, Anne-Marie Lynch and her team. Martin Hughes also played a massive role in it, as did everybody involved. I forgot to mention that in the Dáil last night. I did not get an opportunity to say so but it was an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: The Senator is nearly at ten minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: If there are direct questions, direct answers would be-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: Let the Minister answer the questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: Will the Minister please answer the question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: We have a minute left.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: The Deputy can have a direct question in his last minute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: The Deputy cannot ask and answer the question, in fairness.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: We have had ten minutes of backwards and forwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: Through the Chair, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: We have had this backwards and forwards for the past four years between Deputy Ó Broin and the Minister. It would be very helpful if members just asked direct questions and got direct answers. We are all here to try to get some information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: It is not a political debate in the Chamber. This is the Oireachtas committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: I want to talk about affordability and costs. Most of us are in agreement that the number of houses built over the next couple of years must be higher than the number arising out of the progress made under Housing for All. A figure of 50,000 was mentioned. Very few people are talking about affordability and how we can make a product that is quite expensive to build affordable for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: I agree that we need private investment in housing. There is no doubt about it. People criticise it and use certain terminology in respect of it. However, as long as there is a transfer of affordability to the person who wishes to purchase or rent, it will be critically important. Representatives of the LDA were before the committee recently. They talked about 14,000 homes being built...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: We also passed the Affordable Housing Act. When I think of the legislation that has gone through this committee over the past four years, I sometimes wonder how I ever got to canvass at any doors. We spent most of our time here in the basement. The LDA is transformative and will deliver on the legislation we introduced. Some members supported that legislation and others did not. ...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: Does the Minister wish to respond to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Housing for All: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Steven Matthews: I think Deputy Flaherty is stuck in the Dáil Chamber for the moment. Deputy Gould's story about the butchers which is now three homes is one of the successful ones. Did the owner avail of any grants or a vacant homes officer or that kind of stuff or the change of use-----

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