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Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: This does not suggest compulsion. It speaks about the need to provide counselling. It is not that it is compulsory.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: It is that counselling is provided for a person in those circumstances.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I do not see how providing counselling for that person's partner diminishes that.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: But will it? The question is whether it will if it is not referenced.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I will not press the amendment.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: Were we not discussing amendments Nos. 46 and 47 in that grouping?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I know we did not vote on them but we did not discuss them either.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: Are we also discussing the entire section now?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: That is fine.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I welcome the Minister's approach to this. These proposals came directly from clinics and professionals working in the area, and they made the point anybody can go through a difficult financial period where they are not able to keep up with payments they should be making. Very often, there are very legitimate reasons for that and it should not exclude somebody, but they felt this is too...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I move amendment No. 8: In page 13, line 25, to delete “16 years” and substitute “12 years”.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I would like to make a couple of points. I think there is an issue with the gendered nature of the language in the Bill and I am not sure to what extent the Minister or his officials have thought this through. It refers to a gamete formed in the body of a male and a gamete formed in the body of a female and so on. I wonder why we cannot use more straightforward language, such as "egg" and...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: Is Ms Carter referring to legal advice or opinion?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. I think being more specific would not affect the legal implications of it. Could consideration be given before Report Stage to changing some of the language to make it more inclusive?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: Yes, I am happy to do that. I outlined some examples earlier. Turning to the amendment on posthumous AHR, why is it that that is available only to women? Recommendations were made, again by the committee, but as it stands the Bill allows for only surviving females to access posthumous AHR. I am not clear on what the justification is for the exclusion of surviving males, especially in...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I thank the Minister.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: That explanation does not seem to add up, intuitively. A surrogate is a surrogate. I think the term "mother" is superfluous there. There is no confusion about who the surrogate is.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: It is the case that the language is going to be looked at again. Okay, that is fine.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: I wish to comment on the language used in the Bill, namely, that "The AHHRA shall produce a format of the AHR information document in both plain English and easy read". I think we are all struggling with the complexity of the provisions and the language in this Bill. This is why I am proposing this format would be the case.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (24 Jan 2024)

Róisín Shortall: It is amendment No. 38. I am sorry. That amendment is a little further on.

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