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Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Animal Welfare (24 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Cuirim fáilte roimh an Aire. I welcome the Minister and my friend. I thank him for taking direct responsibility for dealing with a Commencement matter; he is setting a good example there. On 4 January what I would regard as a mysterious consultation appeared on the website of the Department of agriculture. I felt it was artfully hidden under seven statutory notices on dog...

Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Animal Welfare (24 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I thank the Minister for his response, and the deadline extension is very welcome. I am a dog owner. I have no vested interest because I have a loveable but cowardly collie who does not need any such collar for training. However, as to the question of whether it is a shock, scientists say that this is more like a pulse. I think the Minister is conceding the principle if he is not...

Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Animal Welfare (24 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: The remote control is not to call them back; rather it is to prevent them from going near sheep in the first place.

Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Animal Welfare (24 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: That is a big statement.

Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Animal Welfare (24 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Vets will not agree with the Minister.

Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Animal Welfare (24 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It is the same startle.

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Senator McDowell earlier referred to Woody Allen. I know Woody Allen also said that 90% of success is showing up. Would that it were the case that our presence here today could actually get the Government to think again about what it is doing. I will have to see, but I have my doubts. Senator McDowell and I may have different views on what precisely marriage is. We certainly were not on...

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: No. You can check the record, Senator Ruane.

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: They do not want anything like family to cut across their idea of radical equality. They see men's and women's roles in society as indistinguishable, and to achieve that they will use the Trojan Horse of undefined "durable relationships" to now form the fundamental unit of society. Let us think about that. Any anarchic relationship, once it is durable, which does not mean duration, as we...

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: There is no doubt that some former Attorneys General accede to places of great wisdom and insight but we are all wise enough to know that Attorneys General do not possess these crystal balls. The Minister is not willing to show us the small print. Continuing to anchor the family to marriage gives us a reference point for what we understand a family to be in principle - a nuclear family and...

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: -----to always happen, as the O'Meara judgment shows. My amendments are being proposed because as an increasingly troubled society, we should be promoting marriage and not demoting it. I will go back to the invocation of personal experience, and I respect everybody's personal experience here, including my own. If I say that marriage breakdown and divorce cause a lot of pain to children, am...

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I will always declare mine. If you are a councillor pushing for planning permission, for example, and you have an agenda to declare, you had better show it.

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I accept that and I will not linger on the point except to say that the principles of the McKenna judgment were clear - the Government may not spend public money promoting one side or the other of a referendum. It follows from that in spirit, if not in law, that those receiving public money should be very careful about getting involved in a referendum and must certainly be asked the question...

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I will conclude. What I see in this Government proposal is actually an attack on disadvantaged communities more than on anybody else. I have no vested interest in promoting something for some kind of theoretical reason. I call on myself and everybody else to look at the evidence and to see whether there is a reason the State should have some respect for marriage between men and women. Is...

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: And be asked the question.

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: On a point of order-----

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Yes. What is the rule if somebody accuses somebody?

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It has to apply equally across the House. That is all. I know the Cathaoirleach would want that.

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Too many of them.

Seanad: An Bille um an Naoú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (An Teaghlach), 2023: Céim an Choiste agus na Céimeanna a bheidh Fágtha - Thirty-ninth Amendment of the Constitution (The Family) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (23 Jan 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I was-----

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