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Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: The Government took away the eviction ban.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Is it okay to ask questions of the Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: What sort of circumstances?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: For what reasons would a child's parents be detained? That would be rare.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: I thank Ms O'Keeffe. I have another question for the Department. Do we currently have a clear framework for conducting age assessments, as called for by IHREC and the Ombudsman for Children's Office? If not, will the Department provide a timeline for when such a framework will be implemented?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: There are repeated references in this Bill to cases where an officer can reasonably believe someone is not under the age of 18 and then treat them as an adult. What are the reasonable grounds for this determination?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: What other matters?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: I understand how appearance might be one such assessment. I do not understand a single other-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: I am just trying to understand more.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Will the IHREC or the Department of justice explain to the committee what is actually meant by legal counselling? IHREC has referenced this. Can the Department explain legal counselling and how it differs from legal representation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Will the Department clarify what legal counselling means, by its understanding?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: We are doing a number of things today but what we are effectively doing is scrutinising the expansion of the powers of detention within this State, which will now include children. We are going to do all of that without any sort of independent monitoring framework under OPCAT. That is effectively correct, is it not? Does anyone dispute that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Can I ask the Department how that was that factored in to the crafting of the heads of Bill?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: I ask the same question of Dr. Keilthy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Also, to get clarity from the Department, when I asked a question earlier, the Department said that, in the first instance, migrants would be afforded the same entitlement to legal advice as they have now. Is that the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Am I to understand that, from the Department's perspective, migrants who come here and have their own means to avail of legal advice will have the same standards but, otherwise, that will not be the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: Regarding the legal counsellors, is it the expectation of the Department that they will be barristers or solicitors?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: General Scheme of the International Protection Bill 2025: Discussion (14 Oct 2025)

Gary Gannon: The Ombudsman for Children pointed out that the Bill allows a single representative to act for up to 30 unaccompanied minors at once. Do we have any sense from anybody, including from the Department, how that number was arrived at? It seems to be far above the maximum in many other EU countries.

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