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Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Are they only being recruited at the moment?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Finally, is there anything the witnesses would like to add that they have not had the opportunity to add? I am conscious there are two people sitting here who have not spoken. Ms Kitching and Ms McDonagh Clark have not spoken. They have taken the time to be here so if there is anything they would like to contribute so we can hear their voices as well, I would appreciate it.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: I thank Ms McDonagh Clark very much for her contribution. We really appreciate it.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: I have not asked any questions and I would like to use a bit of my time to ask questions that might not have been asked. I recognise that we have a Minister of State responsible - my good friend Deputy Butler. I think it is openly known we are good friends. I say that in total transparency. There are the Minister of State, Deputy Butler, the Minister for Health, Deputy Carroll MacNeill,...

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: That is in the base.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: What is it in relation to drugs?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: How much is specifically for Travellers' mental health?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: The co-mobility piece sits with Deputy Butler.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: I am sorry to cut across. I feel I am getting two different answers. The first answer Ms Hargis gave was €1.4 million because Deputy Butler added to it this year specifically for Traveller mental health. There is €13 million sitting beside her with Mr. Leach with €10 million in the base. Then, Ms McArdle said €6 million. I am just trying to follow the money...

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: It would be great if the witnesses could provide it. I have no doubt there are people looking in who would like to see a breakdown of the money. I got a clear answer on primary so I do not need to go there again. How much of that money is then disbursed to NGOs? If I was to ask Ms Cuskelly about her SLA in relation to the funding her organisation received, is the SLA predominantly with...

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Excellent.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: How many NGOs specifically related to Traveller mental health do we support? It is through the HSE. How many does the HSE fund?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: That answers that. Are those projects permanent? Are they in the base?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: My next question relates to expansion. There is a need for standardisation of expansion. How does the Department or the HSE advertise? There are 31 projects. Why did they not put something at the centre to ensure standardisation of delivery across youth and, for example, breastfeeding, which Senator Noonan brought up? How do we capture the data and standardise across the entire country?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Thirty-one projects.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: We would love to see what good looks like. I think that is what the committee is craving.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: On Traveller women's health, under the previous Minister, Stephen Donnelly, €37 million was ring-fenced for the development of women's health nationally. To see that €500,000 was left aside for Traveller women's health seems disproportionate. That is just a comment. From a policy point of view, we all understand co-production, co-design, co-involvement and across-government....

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Ms McArdle wants to answer that question as well and that is the vision.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Health Inequalities and the Mental Health Crisis: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Anne Rabbitte: Before the Deputy finishes, I wish to remind him that I interrupted him earlier and he ran out of time.

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