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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Yes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Many serious and heated comments are being made today, which I am sure is good for social media, but I might ask some follow-up questions to get more detail about what some of the witnesses have said. Mr. Sheahan stated that he did not believe that the protocol was the problem as such, but he did not get the opportunity to say what he thought the problem was in terms of managing the pandemic.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: May I surmise that Mr. Sheahan is saying that, while the protocol is important, it is the interaction between what is happening inside and outside those areas where the protocol is applicable - nursing homes, factories and so on - that is important?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Excuse me, but I am stuck for time. I appreciate Mr. Sheahan answering my question. Dr. McGuinness was asked about hot bedding and shared transport. These are important concerns, but I wish to clarify the extent of the HSA's remit. What is and is not within its remit? We are all properly concerned about what is happening in the factories, but we must be just as concerned about what is...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Is where the worker lives part of the HSA's remit?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Has the HSA any relationship with, control over or conversation with the employer about the circumstances in which employees live? It is an important issue, but I am unsure as to whether the HSA is responsible for it. I just want to make that clear today.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: The HSA cannot be responsible for where people live, what they do or anything else in the circumstances of community transmission. We have heard time and again from medical professionals that there is no fault in someone contracting the virus. If I contracted it, it would not necessarily be my fault. We are discussing a highly contagious virus that is in the community.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Earlier Dr. McGuinness talked about the 39 inspections. I think she said 30 of them had been unannounced. Dr. McGuinness also said, but did not have the opportunity to follow up on this, that she had provided short notice in respect of announced inspections. I want to ask Dr. McGuinness about announced inspections as well as the unannounced ones. Of course, we want to see unannounced...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That is really important. In respect of the announced inspections, the HSA might contact the employer or the business the night before and turn up the following morning. That is the longest period of announcement. It is not announced three weeks before the inspection, where one can come in and do this, that and the other. The HSA is announcing it the night before for the following...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I appreciate that.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: The Situation in Meat Processing Plants (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I am sorry, Chairman, but let me say this one thing. What has been created is an impression of announced inspections being something where everybody has the opportunity to react substantially differently, get their ducks in line and whatever else. Dr. McGuinness is saying that announced is announced within a matter of hours in a way that could not possibly allow that. It is an important...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Can we hear from Professor Michie? Do we have the same issue? I want to check in advance - perhaps we do not.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: We will go on anyway and perhaps come back if the opportunity arises. This is why I wanted to bring in Professor Michie. It is around the behavioural aspect of what Professor Staines said about pubs and the difference between having a meal and not having a meal. As I understood it, one of the big issues was impacting the behaviour of people while they were there. Having a meal tends to...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: In fairness to some of the publicans, it is not always within their control how every person moves or behaves at a given time. Part of the effort is to try to keep people seated and stop them moving around, as they would have been used to doing behaviourally beforehand. I wish to follow up on Deputy McAuliffe's questions. What is Professor Staines suggesting? Is the idea that if I live...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I understand. To follow up on the Chairman's question, I still was not clear on what is being suggested by Professor Staines and his colleagues for the management of the Northern Ireland and Border issues. What do the witnesses specifically propose we do in monitoring that?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I am sorry to interrupt but time is short. I saw that detail in Professor Staines's opening statement but I am asking what he specifically proposes that we do in management terms about the fact that people cross the Border.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I totally agree and that is one of the practical problems with trying to implement something like this. It is a genuine practical issue that has always been the case. I want to ask about the section in Professor Staines's opening statement that refers to a vaccine. While there has been extremely interesting progress on finding a vaccine, we cannot rely on that or hope too much. Will...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I know Professor Staines said that is not his specialty but there have been some interesting studies carried out by Professor Paddy Mallon and others.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid 19: Implications of a Zero-Covid Island Policy (13 Aug 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That is something the committee has discussed in some detail with Dr. David Nabarro. Do I have much time left?

Ceisteanna Eile - Other Questions: Special Educational Needs (30 Jul 2020)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: 8. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the supports being made available to the 39 schools that were directed to establish special classes; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [19404/20]

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