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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Process.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: The NTA will come before the committee next week.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It certainly raises issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Something in the back of my head is telling me provision was made somewhere on this but I am not certain.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It is totally an NTA issue. I was there. The licences are centralised through the NTA and it does all-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Prior to the summer recess, the issue of Cork Institute of Technology, CIT was being addressed. I will speak to the clerk of the committee as a number of questions were asked and I would like to know whether they have been sent to CIT. I will speak to the clerk and find out. We need to remind the people in CIT that there are questions outstanding. I might provide correspondence to enable...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I do not think it was me.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I welcome some of my former colleagues. For the purposes of transparency, Dave Walsh was assistant secretary over climate change and environment and Terry Sheridan was in planning at the time I was in the Department. I was looking forward to the meeting today because, during my brief stint in the Department, this area was one where I would have loved to have had more time but,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I refer to scenarios where somebody objects to a proposal, it continues with a referral to the board, the board makes its consideration, and the decision it makes is, in effect, the ultimate in agreement with the person who made the objection. In other words, the person objects to a development, that objection is dismissed by relevant authority - the county council - it is referred to the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It is not theoretical at all, but I will allow Mr. Walsh to go on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I will treat it as theoretical.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I want to follow through on this because this is a point about which I am aware. This is where my determination to ensure An Bord Pleanála is changed for the better is exemplified. I do not think An Bord Pleanála can or should in any way, shape or form take an application unless it is verified. The stage after involves taking the decision to another level, which is the courts....

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: That is not foolproof.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Yet it happens.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: As I have many other issues to get to, I will highlight a case but absolve the witnesses from commenting on it. It is not in Tipperary, so it has nothing to do with my constituency. Last March, a planning application for a hotel in a little village, Ballinskelligs – I know the place well because it is where my wife’s family comes from – was turned down. It was an insane...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It came from somewhere but the person does not exist.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: Put it this way, nobody in Kerry knows who it is.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: First, I disagree with the decision. That is fine. However, take the circle of the decision-making process. It is corrupted if a person is appealing it and then the board has to consider that as part of the mix. It cannot say that it is the same complete decision if it got all the way through the board but the person objecting does not exist. One wonders why people have concerns about...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: I understand it is there but it needs to be put into an easier format so people can see it. All conversations, telephone calls, etc., between members of the board should have to be revealed prior to a decision being made. However many people are involved in making a decision, if any of the decision makers had conversations with each other before the decision was made, they should, through...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Alan Kelly: It is called The Organisational Review of An Bord Pleanála by an independent review group, February 2016, commissioned by me. There are very good recommendations in it and I want to find out the status of them all. I have a deep suspicion that many of them have not materialised. That would concern me because I felt at the time that there was not much of a pull towards my decision to...

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