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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Does the Deputy mean subsection (3) of section 20 or 21?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: As I said to Deputy Ó Broin, it sets it out in the review of the national planning framework there. We are on section 21. Is the Deputy referring to section 21(3), which states, "The National Planning Framework shall be subject to" the strategic environmental assessment regulations or SEAs? I do not think that is what he is referring to.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: As I said in response to Deputy Ó Broin, this is very simply to bring forward a provision that already exists in the 2000 Act and update the language used. There is a slight change in the text to remove any doubt around that. It states: "Each subsequent review shall be completed before the expiry of a period of 2 years, which period shall begin on the second occurrence...". The...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will respond briefly. I am conscious that this was discussed at length in the context of the position with national planning statements and the view of some that they should go before the Dáil. The view of Government is that they should not, but I want to respond. This has been very clearly debated and articulated. The fundamental point is that these are policy statements and that...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I should have said something else on the amendment. I am sorry for interrupting.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: On the amendment, I understand what it involves. I just wonder why it is in this grouping. I should have mentioned that because I would have questioned that as well. It is because the Deputy's amendment would amend the same line in the Government's amendment No. 186 to provide that national planning statement, NPS, so that is the reason it is in this grouping. I should have clarified that...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will remind the Deputy of that.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: My amendment goes further than that. It states that the " Minister shall, on publication ..., bring a motion to both Houses of the Oireachtas seeking to refer the National Planning Statement". It is not just about consultation; this is actually bringing the Oireachtas in to the affirmation-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I am not. Deputy Ó Broin is. I am opposing what he is saying. I do not want to interrupt. I am just saying-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: This is not about consultation with an Oireachtas joint committee. What Deputies Ó Broin, Gould and Ó Snodaigh are proposing is that for every national planning statement a motion, post its publication but before its adoption, would go to the Dáil and Seanad. Does the motion go for debate? I assume from the examples Deputy Ó Broin made reference to that it would go to...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will find out.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will check it out. That was raised previously.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: It is 30-something but we will get the Deputy the exact number.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: What I have said is I will look at the Oireachtas joint committee elements. Deputy Ó Broin's amendment goes a lot further than that and he has acknowledged that. It would require a motion before the Dáil for referral to the Oireachtas committee. The Oireachtas committee then would make its considerations, propose amendments and then that would come back, as amended, to the Houses...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: We have discussed it appropriately.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Is the Deputy referring to section 21?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: We are on section 21.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I am trying to find out what the Deputy is referring to. That is all.

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